[QUOTE="Gunga Dan"] OK, from the official guidelines. Up to 85 in a 50 - (6 points *OR* 56 day ban) and fine of a week's pay. Over 85 in a 50 - Discretionary - Depends on the JP but a ban is v. likely. HTH Fingers crossed with the speedo but you could still get the 56 days in any case. [/QUOTE] IIRC, if in Holland you go over the limit by at least 50 kph (31-32 mph), it's an instant ban. So if you get the 6 points. I'd count myself lucky....