nighthawk 550 electrical problem

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by jlpridge, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. jlpridge

    jlpridge Guest


    Krusty,

    Your caution is why I asked before making the decision on thi
    one. Yes my alternator has a fan and yes the bike does have a cdi bo
    under the seat. The clymer manual says there is not test for that box
    It is either good or bad. Mine is good because the bike fires properl
    when the pickup is working correctly. The rotor does turn as
    suspected. The test of that black wire and white wire is straight ou
    of the clymer manual and it fails the resistance test clearly on
    cheap multimeter and an expensive one. What I am not sure of is wha
    the significance of the resistance between these two leads that make
    the stator bad.

    Jef
     
    jlpridge, Oct 5, 2005
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  2. My concern is to help you avoid spending money needlessly on parts that
    may
    not need replacement. The charging system, consisting of alternator,
    rectifier regulator, and battery is the system most often misunderstood
    and all the parts very often get replaced one at a time until the
    problem is found and the owner gets stuck with perfectly good extra
    parts.
    Good. Now that we are clear on those points, the only other possible
    reasons why the stator wouldn't put out the required open circuit
    voltage are that the magnets on the rotor have lost their permanent
    magnetism and the distinctly odd ball possibility that the stator or
    rotor is the wrong one for the motorcycle. (1)

    It's certain easy enough to find out if the permanent magnet rotor is
    still magnetized, just hold a piece of iron next to it and it will grab
    the iron and hold it.

    Permanent magnets can lose their magnetism from being heated, being
    struck hard blows with a hammer, or from being exposed to an
    electromagnetic field.
    The indication of low resistance is that some of the windings of the
    stator's CDI charging coils are shorted out.

    When you run the open circuit voltage test on the yellow wires, are the
    black and white wires also disconnected? If the black and white wires
    are disconnected and the engine runs, that indicates to me that the CDI
    system will start the engine on battery voltage too.

    The indication from the 1 volt you got from the open circuit test (if
    you checked from yellow to yellow to yellow with the engine running at
    around 5000 RPM) is that the stator battery charging coils are also
    shorted out.

    The decision to spend $100 on having your stator rewound, is, of course
    entirely up to you, and I hope that my explanations have helped you
    make the correct decision.

    (1)We read about the strange case a few years ago where the owner of a
    Suzuki GS750 had mismatched the rotor from one motorbike to the stator
    from another motorbike and the number of magnetic poles was incorrect
    so the required north and south magnetic poles were not aligned with
    the stator poles at the correct time and there was no voltage output.
    As I recall, that fellow had one 12-pole part and one 18-pole part, and
    that's why the north poles and south poles were never aligned to
    produce voltage in the stator. That one was a real headscratcher.
     
    krusty kritter, Oct 5, 2005
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