nighthawk 550 electrical problem

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by jlpridge, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. jlpridge

    jlpridge Guest



    Mark,

    My Clymer manual should be here tomorrow. Once I look at th
    section referring to the rectifier I will try your fix. In th
    meantime, one of my electrician friends at work asked if I had checke
    the coils yet. He said that it is possible if the resistance is to
    high on them they could be failing which would also impede the chargin
    capacity of the bike's charging system. Have you ever heard anythin
    like this before. It sure sound relevant due to how poorly the bik
    runs until it runs for a minute. It does not seem that it is an issu
    of warming up because even after it begins to run well it can go bac
    at any moment to running poorly
     
    jlpridge, Sep 29, 2005
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  2. I don't know if you understand the nature of Mark's solution to the
    remote sensing wire problem or not. If the remote sensing wire is open
    or has high resistance, the voltage regulating circuit in the rectifier
    regulator won't work and the voltage will get too high.

    That's which Mark moved his wire, he wanted to avoid burning up his
    stator from HIGH voltage. Your problem so far seems to be LOW voltage.
    Your stator could already be partially shorted out, but you need to do
    the open circuit voltage test to see if it's putting out AC voltage at
    5000 to 7000 RPM.

    The rectifier regulator is a two part device which has the six diodes
    that change AC from the stator into DC that the battery can use.

    The voltage regulating circuit is a silicon control rectifier that
    grounds out one phase of the stator when the voltage gets too high. The
    silicon control rectifier is sometimes also called a "thyristor".

    When the SCR grounds one phase of the stator, that cuts the AC outout
    in half momentarily. The silicon control rectifier has enough built-in
    resistance, when it conducts electricity to ground it just gets hot
    without hurting itself.

    The remote sensing wire simply sends voltage to a component called a
    zener diode in the voltage regulating circuit of the rectifier
    regulator. A zener diode is a kind of diode that doesn't conduct
    electricity until the voltage reaches the desired level. Then the zener
    diode conducts electicity to the gate of the silicon control rectifier,
    telling it to
    shunt the high voltage (around 15 to 16 volts) to ground.

    That's why the rectifier regulator is also called a "shunt type
    regulator".
    It just wastes excess voltage into the frame of the motorbike.
    You might have loose connectors on the ignition control module or on
    the ignition coils themselves. If you want to see if you have enough
    voltage to produce adequate sparks, install a fully charged battery,
    remove the spark plugs and reinstall the plugs in the plastic
    connectors on the end of the ignition wires and crank the engine over
    while holding a spark plug about 1/4 of an inch away from the cylinder
    head. If you get a bright blue spark that jumps 1/4 of an inch, you
    have enough spark to rev up the engine to do your open circuit test.

    If you get a weak white spark that won't jump 1/4 of an inch, or it's
    orange or red, that's really weak and you'll need to figure out what
    the problem is. An electronic ignition system either works or it
    doesn't, the most likely problem for weak spark is dirty or loose
    connectors.

    If you don't have a weak spark, the most probable reason for bad
    running is dirty idle mixture jets. I've described what to do about
    that in this newsgroup about a bazillion times, so you can google that
    information up.
     
    krusty kritter, Sep 30, 2005
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