Nicky's pass on Lorenzo at Aragon and more loose thoughts.

If he can ride that aggressively for the next five races, he may
actually win one. I'd like to see it. Spies is going to be dangerous
next year and the year after. I wish someone would give Simoncelli a
decent factory ride. He's a hidden gem as well. Next year will be just
as boring (I'm betting) but once they get the 1000's back and cut back
on the electronics, it should be fun again, especially if the
satellite teams can bring a competitive bike. Moto 2 sure is fun and
if I'm a team manager, either in Moto GP or WSBK, I'm looking at
Iannone for sure! In fact, if I had a WSBK time, I'd be recruiting
Iannone and Samson onto the same team. Melandri is going to be a deep
threat in that series. Max will have his hands full holding onto that
title (that I hope he gets). Colin I guess is officially a development
rider now. I can't see the guy winning a GP ever. Like Nori, I believe
his spirit is broken. Unless, they do a full on "rain race" where
Schwantz and Corser both stated that it really evens the bikes out.
We'll see.

 

Hayden has always been methodical, and I think Stoner sometimes being
disoriented -clearly not today- helps the attention he gets within
Ducati.

And after and after.

He has a venerable history of being inconsistent. If he learns to be
fast when he doesn't feel comfortable, perhaps. I am not sold on him.

I don't know. You didnt mention Elias, who is bound to win Moto2 and
seemingly rejoin MotoGP despite being a 2 time reject. And I think
Elias is damn entertaining, but I don't expect him to make it count in
MotoGP this time around either. Melandri... such talent, I think he'd
need at least a year to fully get his confidence back. And hope he
does.

Edwards has ridden in the rain, and while he did well, he didn't win
either. I think it's the old story of being older and losing the bite.
Edwards would be one to watch in WSB though.

 

That'll be the factory bike that's not quite as factory as the Repsol
bikes. Dovi must be wondering if he gets forced to ride the same next
year if, he'll be a further 0.3s off the pace.

Talking of Dovi, Has anyone seen what happened to him on the last lap?
Did Spies run him onto the grass, or was it a failed hail mary pass?

 

Hey, ho. It's a shame we couldn't see this on the TV feed as well as
Stoner winning, Pedrosa coming second and Hayden's pass on Lorenzo.
Seems like they quite the fight on the last couple of laps.

 

Not at all. We were all shouting for Spies in this house and royally
pissed off that the camera didn't follow the battle. If he ran Dovi onto
the grass it would have been further proof (if any was needed) that he's
a hard rider. All those years of Mladin and then Haga mean he doesn't
give an inch. As you say those passes at the end of the long straight
were epic.

 

It's part of what annoys me about the TV coverage. They'll show the
leaders crossing the line (sometimes annoying), but then they show the
team's jumping around and patting each other on the back, when there's a
battle going on down field.

 

Yeah, damn red-necks taking our rides!

 

Here. Have a chip.

 

Julian Bond offers:

Is it a wanker chip? He's already got one of those.

If it'd been Rossi, first question wouldn't have been
"did he run him in into the grass" but "how hard did he
hit him?"


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

 

Yes! And more than once. At least they could replay the following
battle's passes and crashes.
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By the way, I watched it at motogp.com. Not sure how different that is
to British and European coverage. The rider interviews on the starting
line don't come on, normally; a camera is roving around but no sound.
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British Eurosport don't have their own cameras, so they take the feed from
Dorna and that's it. Sometimes, just sometimes, Eurosport will repeat a
section of the feed if something was missed during an ad-break. However,
they don't tend to do ad-breaks during the racing these days.

In comparison, the BBC have a huge OB crew with at least 2 mobile camera
units and will go and get interviews from the riders on the grid and in
Parc Ferme as well as additional segments. They also know about that
recent[1] invention called Picture-in-Picture, so won't interrupt race
coverage with their live interviews during a race. Something Dorna could
do well to learn.

[1] Obvious sarcasm.

 

Yeah, right. You have WAAYYYY too much time on your hands. Along with
that inferiority complex, it's not a good combo.

 

Very interesting. I don't recall the motogp.com during-race coverage
interrupted for live interviews on-camera, though they will get some
comments by audio from the teams. So that's a little better. But it must
be Dorna's coverage, complete with abandoning the last-lap dices for the
winner crossing the line.

I'll send them a comment on that at the web site. Everyone could start
an account there and do the same. Or maybe it doesn't require an account.
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I've checked and it doesn't require an account. You can go to motogp.com
and click the Contact link at the lower right at the bottom.

Here's what I wrote:
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On rec.motorcycles.racing, we're talking about your video coverage. We
really wanted to follow the last lap dice. In the heat of the Spies
vs Dovisioso battle, we had to leave it and see the winner cross the
line, and not go back to it. The commentators were way into the battle,
and it had some fantastic developments that we never saw, not even in a
replay.

So I'm hoping that for future races, if there's a big dice on the last
lap that's not at the front, that you could stay with it. You could
replay the winner crossing the line.

Or, if you cut to the winner crossing the line, then you could replay
the dice.

We're all really wondering what happened between when the camera left
the dice and when Dovi fell off. Apparently there were a few passes.

The winner, if out by himself, crossing the line is not so exciting at all.

Thanks.



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Sorry, I meant that the BBC do their own interviews during the race,
mostly with the chief-mechanic or team-boss, and sometimes with a rider
that has returned to the pits. For that, they use P-in-P. They might
also have audio only ones, I don't know as I use their coverage
(sometimes) for the pre-race and post-race stuff only.

Eurosport has a less annoying commentary team.

 

Whoa, I wasn't being sascastic! Just saying that remembering the
motogp.com coverage, I can't recall *them* doing any live interviews on
the grid.

Thanks for the info.
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Hmm - maybe my older mind is fading. Now I seem to remember them doing
some interviews. But, the camera is almost never there, simply wandering
around and stopping with each rider. Usually they're commenting on the
rider we're seeing. Just one time the camera happened upon the interview
that we were hearing.
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I should mention that when the motogp.com camera stops with each rider
on the grid, often the rider is prepared with a sign with a message, and
lots of hamming it up!
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When British Eurosport used Randy Mamola as a roving reporter, it was
always fun[1] to see him caught on camera and get the pictures as well.
Of course the sound was out of sync though.

Yeah, we see that too.

[1] For some definition of fun, obviously.