Been happily using the pikey service on above server for yonks now, with no problem and no cost. Last night, UKRM disappeared, along with a couple of other UK NG's. Looks like the Danes no longer like the UK'ers. Anybody recommend a decent news server? TIA -- Greybeard FLHRCI -01 UK ( 95 cu-in Stg 2. Big Boy!) Trumpet Trophy 1200 -91, for rainy days nntp@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk
news.individual.net - it's not free but it's so cheap it's almost pikey. Excpet it isn't pikey - it rocks. -- Dnc B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - faster when upright V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked A6 2.5TDi V6 Quattro Sport MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
Probably more to do with their change in policy and the fact that you're not Danish: http://dotsrc.org/ New usenet access policy now active Saturday November 26th 2005 As we announced earlier, our access policy to the usenet server would be changed on October 15th, 2005. Unfortunately there were some unexpected difficulties in implementing this policy in practice. The problems have now been solved, and as of tonight the new policy is active. In short this means that users connecting from a non-danish IP will only be able to access Open Source related groups and Danish news groups.
That'll be it then ;o( -- Greybeard FLHRCI -01 UK ( 95 cu-in Stg 2. Big Boy!) Trumpet Trophy 1200 -91, for rainy days nntp@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk
Used to be with these guys until they started charging! Looks like I'll have to pay-up then. Whatever happened to the "free internet?" -- Greybeard FLHRCI -01 UK ( 95 cu-in Stg 2. Big Boy!) Trumpet Trophy 1200 -91, for rainy days nntp@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk
If you've got your own news server in place, correctly set up on a static IP address, there are plenty of upstreams - available free. If you're serious about doing it email me and I'll point you in the right direction.
David Mahon wrote Why bother? I mean, apart from the fact that any ISP worthy of the name provides Usenet as a part of the deal, what is the point of setting up you own server? In order to get news to your local client you have to read from an upstream server somewhere, why waste ticks duplicating the process locally? In order to reply to news you need to be able to post to an upstream server somewhere so why waste ticks duplicating the process locally? Given that everything you need is already in place and available upstream just get yourself a half decent newsreader and read the fucking help files on how to use it.
frag wrote Look you are a nice, if somewhat slow, sort of a chap but even then why would I want more than one copy of your post? It and all the others associated with it are readily available for me to read and comment upon and delivered to my desktop anytime I want via my news client from my ISP, why on earth should I want to replicate the whole thing from other sources? See my point above. My internet connection doesn't fail. The only thing that could affect that is either BT or this computer failing and if that were the case reading 3 thousand old ukrm posts really is going to be low on my list of priorities for today's ToDo list. YMMV. I can do that with my newsreader. Course it is worth pointing out that mine is a bought and paid for product what has turned out to be really rather good value for money over the last %YEARSONLINE. See my reply given to your previous point. Yes I can but I do not and I fail to understand why you do. I don't know if I could run any of the *nix news servers under cygwin but if I can,[1] I can run a better one than you. I couldn't do it 24/7 of course because I don't pay for always "always on" but it is near enough to be probably very similar in customer availability to anything my ISP may already be paid by me to supply for my use. In a sense I do have a pc in a cupboard somewhere (although I don't own it, I rent time on it) and it runs everything you listed and is virtually maintenance free from my pov. In addition it does a few other tasks for me entirely automatically. These include but are not limited to: virus detection, spam detection, network monitoring and fault handling, virtually limitless storage of media files and a few other bits and pieces. I am happy to say; by moving various functions (including most of the servers) upstream over the years, my "Internet Experience" is steadily improving. and believe it or not there is actually some truth in the old saying that wisdom comes with years. Of course what they miss out on saying entirely is that the facility to use the wisdom declines in pretty much the same proportions as it is gained so it all evens out in the end. [1] A punctuation question for the Classically Educated/Inclined FOAK. Just there I replaced a 'then' wiv a comma. Now, I know that if it had been a 'that' I could have slipped in a 100% correct use of a semi-colon for free without having to ask why and I wondered if I could do the same with a 'then' rather than a comma or is it always going to be a comma that doesn't scan right sometimes? A simple yes no answer will suffice, if there are any sub sets of rules that may, or may not, apply then life simply isn't fucking long enough for me to warrant the effort of paying attention for that long.
steve auvache? He'z just ziz guy, you know? Duh! You don't see more than one copy of any post. You get redundancy of news peers, so if one peer has missing articles (or is completely dead) your server gets the missing articles from somewhere else. What the client sees is a complete news feed for whatever groups you read, regardless of how iffy your ISPs NNTP server is. I'll expect the "BT are cunts" post tomorrow as water and ice get into your cable... And if you've got say 5 machines in your house, you're going to set that up individually on all 5? And that won't work anyway as I suspect each client doesn't share local groups with anything else. Mine is free, supported, and rather good. Can't get better value for money than that. See my reply given to your point before the previous point. Why not? The bandwidths sitting there, paid for. I don't use 100% of it 100% of the time, so why not help others out? Or is that not your style? <sniff> Poor bait, even my cats won't touch it. You can't administer or set it up to do exactly what you want it to do. You share its resources with thousands of other people. And if you think you can, set up Samba on it, share some directories and adjust the firewall it sits behind so anyone can access them (for instance) Also the fact that a file server at your ISP has far to slow a connection to be usable for what I need. I'm about to upgrade to gigabit networking cause the things I move about/use take too long now. So you like being spoon fed the services someone else decides you want, and having no control over them. Fine. Each to their own. AOL has lots of lusers that are perfectly happy. Don't forget ignorance and arrogance.
frag wrote My server does this already, it is a part of what I pay F9 to do. Mine isn't The internet as a whole and Usenet in particular is very important to me and not just as a substitute for a life. If my ISP were not providing the level of service I require I would spend my money elsewhere but as it turns out they are more than up to the task. 'Course if you are a pikey you will see a different level of service and moan "it isn't good enough," and then waste half your life trying to reinvent the wheel on the cheap. They fixed my cable (it only took 15 years) when I went to broadband a while back. I don't expect any more problems for a bit but if the buggers did cut me off then it would be from *every* server on the planet, except those I choose to run locally and they would be utterly pointless without their upstream feeds. Up to a maximum of 6 seats (it may be more) I can do that but as I mentioned I have a bought and paid for product and it is exactly the sort thing I would expect from proper software. Yours doesn't appear to have quite the functionality of mine. Who are these others who need helping out? More bleedin' pikeys? I don't do style, style is for followers. Snot bait, it is a fact of life. I can see from the replies you have given that you haven't got a fucking clue. If you had you wouldn't be wasting your time in the way that you do. I don't have to administer it, I pay for someone else to do that for me. Isn't this exactly what you are suggesting you do with yours. Newsgroups for the masses and all that shit. Difference is that they all pay a part for "my" computer's operating costs and are not a bunch of sorry arsed freeloaders like your mates. They are not really your mates you know this don't you? See how many of them still talk to you if you ask them to pay for reading news off your computer. I dunno about Samba but this sort of thing is already being done by my ISP, how many times do I have to tell you? I dunno how fast or slow my ISPs connections are. I guess though that as they are serving thousands like me it is a damn sight faster than anything you might envisage for your personal use. I suspect that a bottleneck, if any exists, is between me and BT and nothing to do with my ISP at all. I have as much control over them as I require. Which is why I employ others to do stuff on my behalf. What more do I need? Ignorance is something that diminishes with age, as you will find out, provided you make the effort to learn. Arrogance of course is the complete opposite.
steve auvache? He'z just ziz guy, you know? So you don't understand the first thing about NNTP servers yourself, as demonstrated above, and say I haven't a clue? In summary, you're old, sad *and* a fuckwit. But don't let me stop you pretending you know everything about everything, and continuing to be the groups resident fool.
frag wrote Oh, I understand the first thing and very probably the second too, which is why I have others do the work for me. Taken you a while to get there, I believe I commented on that earlier. I am a parent of course I know everything, there is nop need for pretence. Somebody has to fill the role.
