newbie which bike question.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by jo, Oct 2, 2004.

  1. jo

    jo Guest

    Hello.
    I hope to get my L's this week and need some advice on what bike to get.

    Ideally I am after something under $3500 that's efficient, cheap to maintain
    and suitable for the occasional 300km highway cruise back to Cohuna.

    At the moment I'm looking at:
    Kawazaki GPX250, Eliminator
    Suzuki Accross, GZ250
    As these were recommended.

    Are 250's pretty much rooted for highway riding?

    Also, why is everything I look at around 10 years old with only 30,000 on
    the clock. Is this allot of k's for a bike?

    Any help appreciated
    Gavin.
     
    jo, Oct 2, 2004
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  2. jo

    jo Guest

    I should have mentioned I'm 190cm 100kg.
     
    jo, Oct 2, 2004
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    shouldnt be hard
    by whom ??

    GPX would be the pick , good size, reasonable power,
    huge fuel tank 400 k/tank isnt hard , very cheap and easy to service even BTH can do it
    , centre stand , and lasts well over 100,000 kays with basic maintenance
    basically take your pick for $3500 for something in the past say 5 years with sub 20K if not around 10K

    Eliminator IIRC is the cruiser with the GPX motor but in a lower tune
    so not so great on the highway and has a real small tank so scrub the 300k trips

    Across isnt bad for the highway but with the seat like that you will be dreading the
    last 220k's of the trip and the tank is very small at only 12 litres so you will be lucky to see
    200 k before you are walking
    4 cyl so the most expensive of the lot to buy and maintain

    GZ250 IIRC has the GN250 motor which wont do a whole lot more that 100kph without complaining
    some are
    no not a lot of kays

    a lot of 250's have been through multiple owners and been treated like crap so buy on
    condition instead of kilometres
     
    Johnnie5, Oct 3, 2004
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    Krazykol Guest

    In which case it depends on where you are. I would recomend something like a
    Honda NX 650 Dominator which I believe is learner approved in NSW. It is
    tall, torquey bike that will have no troubles with your size (and you with
    it) around town or on the open road.

    Krazykol
    ZZ-R 600
     
    Krazykol, Oct 3, 2004
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    sarcasmatron Guest

    I had a GPX for a couple of years .
    Beats the crap out of most traffic .
    Sounds good when you fang it .
    Never missed a beat .
    Good performance VS cost to maintain .
    It copes well with highways and freeways but you want to throw it back a
    couple of gears to overtake .
    Just make sure you look at lots and don't buy a daggy one .
     
    sarcasmatron, Oct 3, 2004
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  6. jo

    jo Guest

    Forgot that different states might not have the 250 restriction.

    I'm in melbourne. Is a 250 simply too small to cope with 3hour highway
    rides?
     
    jo, Oct 3, 2004
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    John Littler Guest

    No absolutely not. 250's can be ridden plenty of miles - BT will
    undoubtably post the url to his trips all over Oz, Big Iain has done
    similar silliness on the Spada and I've gotten the impression Hammo has
    done similar things to the VTR250

    Both Hammo and BigIain are large lads so there's absolutely no reason a
    VTR or a Spada 250 wouldn't be able to easily do what you're after. I
    doubt they weigh any less than you.

    Similarly a GPX250 is a quite capable bike, I've done 160+ on one (but
    I'm small -> ~75Kg last time I bothered to weigh myself) however I'd be
    surprised if it couldn't sustain 110-120Km/hr easily enough with a 100Kg
    guy on board. .

    The cruisers tend to have lower HP (whether we're talking 250's or
    1500cc) so they're more likely to struggle.

    JL
    --
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    "So far Howard's luck has survived a great deal: his move to dismiss
    broken election pledges by distinguishing between "core" and "non-core"
    promises; his retrospectively time-limited "never ever" pledge on the
    goods and services tax; his vagueness about when he committed Australia
    to war against Iraq; his shifting standards for ministerial conduct; his
    demonising of asylum seekers as child killers; his tendency to blame
    "advice" rather than to openly accept responsibility when things go wrong."
    Will Howard's luck survive another election ? Do Australians not care
    that their PM is a liar ?
    http://www.johnhowardlies.com/
     
    John Littler, Oct 3, 2004
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  8. jo

    jo Guest

    Thanks for the info, I'll see what I can get.
    What sort of fuel economy do you get out of a gpx?
    I get around 10L/100km out of my clapped out peugeot 505. Fuel economy was
    my main barganing point with my girlfriend when trying to get permission for
    the bike.
    gavin.
     
    jo, Oct 3, 2004
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  9. jo

    John Littler Guest

    You're not even MARRIED and you had to get PERMISSION !

    Puhleese !

    JL

    --
    Australian Financial Review 17 August 2004
    "So far Howard's luck has survived a great deal: his move to dismiss
    broken election pledges by distinguishing between "core" and "non-core"
    promises; his retrospectively time-limited "never ever" pledge on the
    goods and services tax; his vagueness about when he committed Australia
    to war against Iraq; his shifting standards for ministerial conduct; his
    demonising of asylum seekers as child killers; his tendency to blame
    "advice" rather than to openly accept responsibility when things go wrong."
    Will Howard's luck survive another election ? Do Australians not care
    that their PM is a liar ?
    http://www.johnhowardlies.com/
     
    John Littler, Oct 3, 2004
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    dependant on how you ride and the state of tune 5l/100 is easy and even less down to 4L
    time for a new GF if you are asking permission

    let me guess the 300K trek is to see the GF ???
     
    Johnnie5, Oct 3, 2004
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  11. jo

    jo Guest

    time for a new GF if you are asking permission

    too late for that. I'ts my fiance but I can't get used to saying that.
    No, parents are complaining i never visit. If I get a bike at least I can
    make it an enjoyable trip.
     
    jo, Oct 3, 2004
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    GB Guest

    My ZZR is good for 160Kmh (with me on it) if I wring it's
    neck hard enough, and 130Km/h sustained. I think I'm circa
    80-85Kg. Little bikes and little cars can go plenty
    fast/hard/far enough, it just takes a different sort of
    approach and attitude. It's mostly about attitude, just like
    with 2 litre cars.

    G
     
    GB, Oct 3, 2004
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    its NEVER too late , you still have time my son
    and that's when you say

    I still live in the same place you know Mum
     
    Johnnie5, Oct 3, 2004
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    Chris Coote Guest

    I agree- a Spada can take what I give out (105kg) and Bigian has rounded me
    up on a twisty road on his....

    A Spada is a good starting place. Cheap and cheerful and will take the
    obligatory low-speed learner drop kindly.


    CC
     
    Chris Coote, Oct 3, 2004
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    Gary Woodman Guest

    Most 250s would be OK. Can you say the same about your arse? The Eliminator
    would probably have a more comfortable seat than, say, an Across.

    Say hello to the folks in Cohuna; both my parents came from farms
    around there.

    Gary
     
    Gary Woodman, Oct 3, 2004
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    jo Guest

    Say hello to the folks in Cohuna; both my parents came from farms
    will do.

    just passed the knowledge test. Riding skills test this wednesday.
     
    jo, Oct 3, 2004
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    Mad Biker Guest

    geezus an pug nut, thank got i sold my 405 mi16..


    alway slook at a good old honda cb250, vtr250/vt250 spada, you could get a
    near new one for that price..

    i rode my vtr250 like a demon overloaded with luggage, and rode it for 12+
    hours a day on teh highway and it loved it... i find most 250 cruisers are
    just plane poo, and arnt designed to go more than 60kph. mostly underpowered
    compared to the same engine in a decent sports bike.. if your in nsw look at
    the LAMS and get a 600cc cruiser if thats what you so desire

    check out mewebsite and click on bikes, i made a list of all the 250's i
    rode and wrote a little speak and gave photos and stats etc on em.. could be
    usefull to some ppl, i know i figured i gathered it i might as well share
    it..
     
    Mad Biker, Oct 3, 2004
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    Marty H Guest

    Marty H, Oct 3, 2004
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    Smee Guest

    Absolutely not.
    They will go all day and not miss a beat.
    A vtr 250 or spada or somesuch will suffice.
     
    Smee, Oct 3, 2004
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    Uncle Bully Guest

    I'm a shave under 100kg and I got up to 130km/h once on my GPX250.
    120 is about as far is it likes to go without complaining.
     
    Uncle Bully, Oct 4, 2004
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