Newbie help FZS 600 revs and gear

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by rob2, Apr 10, 2005.

  1. rob2

    rob2 Guest

    Passed my test and got a secondhand Fazer 600, I have ridden
    a CG125 and an ER-5 Twin. What kind of rev's should I be using in
    each gear, went for an overtake on a bit of National after a 40 limit
    and drifted out moving forwards past them and then whoomf doing
    90mph climbing to 100mph into the bend. Have really tried to
    google this but **** all.

    It's apparently a girls bike but 96hp ? seems fast enough to me,
    basically should I be revving the **** out of it in each gear or
    changing up so it sounds relaxed all the time.

    A secondary problem , habit of slipping the clutch a lot, in every
    gear, not until i've rounded a turn to a minor road will I let it out
    fully in 1st any ideas.
     
    rob2, Apr 10, 2005
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  2. rob2

    Kevin Stone Guest

    I've a bandit 600 and I almost never have the revs below 6k, but then again,
    I'm almost never in 5th or 6th.

    I'm off the clutch as soon as.
     
    Kevin Stone, Apr 10, 2005
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  3. rob2

    rob2 Guest

    thats bollocks , didn't know what speed I was doing and could have
    changed gear without remembering, the road was blurring though.
    was 80mph going to the bend it's the road int0 Dunsfold on the straight
    near the White Horse
     
    rob2, Apr 10, 2005
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  4. rob2

    Pip Guest

    You didn't die, did you? Well, it can't have been that bad, then.
    Use the appropriate rpm for the use you are putting the bike to and
    what you want to do next. Bimbling along a straight, not in a hurry -
    top cog, middle of the range. Preparing for an overtake - just at the
    start of the powerband in the gear you have selected - that will give
    you a good kick past, then you will be in front of the vehicle and
    can change up at leisure.
    You're fucking dangerously incompetent. Will that do?

    You need riding practice and practice in controlling your hands, son.
    Don't slip the clutch so much and learnt to control the throttle
    properly. Figure-of-eights in an empty car park for you - until
    you've got it right.
     
    Pip, Apr 10, 2005
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  5. In uk.rec.motorcycles, rob2 amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Being in the proper gear for the speed you are going will sort that out.
     
    Whinging Courier, Apr 10, 2005
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  6. rob2

    Pip Guest

    If he's in first *and* slipping the clutch - perhaps doing the right
    speed for the gear selected may be better in this case. Or a bigger
    rear sprocket ...
     
    Pip, Apr 10, 2005
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  7. rob2

    Lozzo Guest

    Bear says...
     
    Lozzo, Apr 10, 2005
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  8. rob2

    rob2 Guest

    not that i'm aware of
     
    rob2, Apr 10, 2005
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  9. rob2

    rob2 Guest

    [cut]

    That's almost what the old bloke on the pavement [outside the shop]
    said when I revved the **** out of it in neutral after buying it. He was
    on a 4 wheeler mobility cart and told me about his 40 years
    riding experience in a friendly term, said to take it easy.
     
    rob2, Apr 10, 2005
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  10. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Pip amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Yes, but I thought I must've made an error in reading it because the
    fule'd be upright at that sort of clutch slipping gear. Riding that
    slowly would be dangerous ihmo. I can't think of any situation, other
    than riding through a road wide wet cow pat on a hairpin that would
    warrant that kind of skill.
    Indeed, one the size of the latest 12" remix of something or other.
     
    Whinging Courier, Apr 10, 2005
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  11. Kevin Stone wrote
    I too have a bandit 600 but most of the time I am too busy hanging on
    for me life to be looking at rev counters.

    I like to think I am but I am not sure sometimes.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 10, 2005
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  12. You're not trying hard enough. Get the power on earlier.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 11, 2005
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  13. rob2

    Muck Guest

    Just ride the thing, listen to what it's telling you. On the overtakes,
    if you open the throttle and it doesn't go fast enough, mash it down a
    couple of gears until it does. If it still doesn't go fast enough, buy a
    bigger bike.

    On the just riding score, don't expect a 600cc bike engine to slog along
    at just above tick over in top. Again, listen to the bike, it mostly
    wants to be in the rpm range in between revving its nuts off and the
    other extreme of nothing much happening when you open the throttle.
     
    Muck, Apr 11, 2005
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  14. rob2

    JackH Guest

    To be fair, mine seems a lot more flexible than a lot of the other 600s I've
    had, as in it pulls better from lower down in some respects, but then given
    they're basically a mildly detuned Thundercat lump, only to be expected.

    Unlike my old GSX750F though, it still pulls nice and sweetly through to
    13.5k, without any flat spots, whereas the GSX seemed to hiccup at just over
    10k.
     
    JackH, Apr 11, 2005
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  15. rob2

    Muck Guest

    I'd say that my FZR has the most flexible engine on any bike I've owned,
    ok so it's not the most powerful bike but... usable power from 5000 to
    18000, that's a spread of 13000 rpm. Not bad at all.
     
    Muck, Apr 11, 2005
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  16. You use whatever gear/revs is appropriate for what you are doing -
    intend to do next. If you are trickling gently along, then a high gear
    is appropriate. If you are about to overtake and it might prove to be a
    tight manouver, then aim for the gear which gives you revs just at the
    start lower end of the power band.
    Entirely your choice. High revs all the time will wear it out faster
    and cost in fuel.
    On a tight turn then you might need to slip the clutch as well as hold
    the rear brake on to control it. You should not be slipping the clutch
    (or needing to) in any but 1st gear.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Apr 11, 2005
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  17. Harry Bloomfield explained :
    Once clear of the vehicle you are overtaking, it is prudent to ease off
    the loud pedal and change back up.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Apr 11, 2005
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  18. If it's the straight I think in the NSL just after 40 and past the
    vineyard 120+ is quite possible on a 600 Fazer before slamming the
    anchors on for the bend.
     
    Boots Blakeley, Apr 11, 2005
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  19. rob2

    Muck Guest

    Dunno what sort of strange motorcycle you ride, with a throttle pedal.
     
    Muck, Apr 12, 2005
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  20. rob2

    Pip Guest

    muck@_TEETH_rulex.net (Muck) struggled to ejaculate:
    The same sort that drives him to repeat, almost verbatim, my earlier
    post.
     
    Pip, Apr 12, 2005
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