new or used: a question of economy

Well I'd like to think I am ! And anyone who wants to burst my bubble
can go stand in the far queue.

Only $10 cheaper - it was $60 cheaper than the genuine alternative for me

Well I don't have a philosophical issue with giving Feeney's my money as
such, the issue for me is always the fact that I'd like the parts THIS
decade. So I prefer to buy the things that are actually immediately
available which coincidentally never seem to be the genuine Cagiva/MV
stuff for some reason.

JL
(no I'm sorry I won't wait 4 months for a fuckin' air filter OK - the TL
one will fit just fine)

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:45:42 +1100

More horses from smaller packages, more equipment... that means the
bikes are harder to work on.

The Norge is fuel injected so it's harder to work on without expensive
kit than a carbed bike is. WIlder cam timing, twin plugs, and it's
still a relatively simple bike to get at.

I learned on old bangers that were easy to work on (how hard is an RD250
to service?) if I was new to working on bikes now and confronting a fuel
injected twinplugged thing covered in fairings I'd think twice.

Someone who starts with a GPX would be OK, but a babyblade owner?

Zebee

 

I have a soft spot for the LAMS DR650SE but then it's basically a 20
year old bike that's still being made and one that wasn't exactly state
of the art when it was introduced


G-S

 

Going down the gears is part of the "standard" script for the NSW
pre-learners.

The course is fairly well defined and each school or instructor is
supposed to stick to the standard script, so, in theory at least, all
new riders in NSW should be taught the same things.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

He's a good man, and thorough.

-----sharks (it's okay Betty, in-joke)

 

Stop skirting around the issues.

Theo

 

Unscrew the plug on the bottom, let it run out, screw the plug back
in, fill it at the top. It's not rocket science Betty.

What is that?

Pretty simple, they just have one bolt. Give it a go.

You may need to offer some-one a beer fot this information.

Sorry, I don't have one of those either.

Theo

 

You have wiggly bits?

Theo

 

Totally agree. OTOH, my ex-brother-in-law thought there was a
manufacturing problem with the head-bolts on his Marina after he
snapped the fourth bolt.

Theo

 

That sounds a bit silly. I was taught by my National Safety Council
(sadly defunct and their track has turned into a parking lot for ECU)
that, when you have a need to emergency stop, you forget about the
gears, the indicators, the dashboard clock, the CB radio, the people
behind you, annd just concentrate on stopping.

Of course the best lesson is not to allow yourself to get inot such a
situation in the first place, because, if you do it regularly, you
will die.

Theo

 

If you are applying the correct technique to your braking, what do you
lose by tap-dancing on the gear shift at the same time?

Assuming you manage to stop without bumping into anything, it is a handy
option to be able to go again reasonably promptly.

I certainly agree that avoidance of the need for an emergency stop is a
better option.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:04:28 +1100

I tend to get distracted by the way the gearshift lever locks up or
otherwise protests.

Haven't tried it on the Norge, but the other bikes don't much like it.

(and it's way too much like work on the Devil, as it's pull up not
push down.)

Heh. Not in 3rd or stuck in some suddenly appeared neutral it isn't.

Zebee

 

Fine...don't do it.

I do the down shifting out of habit, but will probably not do it, at
least intentionally, on the BM.

Of course there will be perfectly valid reasons for some people riding
some bikes to not do it.... that's OK.

I still think it's a good thing to teach. I also think, in most cases,
it's a good thing to try and practice.

Probably Dave, on his hand-shift WLA might not try it.

Most reasonably modern motorcycles will happily put up with the down
shifting business.

Well, that's exactly the point. If you stop and are still in 5th or 6th,
you'll either stall it trying to move away, because when you've _had_ to
do an emergency stop, you forget things like that, or you have to then
find first.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:28:30 +1100

I have done it on bikes that tolerate it, but not ones that don't.

Like most things taught to learners, experienced riders know the
exceptions.

Heh.... old bikes are too expensive for learners nowadays!

Zebee

 

the bit that connects the engine to the gearbox

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

Yep,
http://tinyurl.com/superboike

http://tinyurl.com/bestboike

Moike

 

Could be OK, but there's 4pots and 4pots - the stock one on the trx sucked

Mmm yeah OK, but why not buy a real bike (or in fact you could probably
get 3 decent bikes for the cost of a fat bob). You know you want a Striple.

JL

 

Well.... a bit like bestiality - it might feel good doing it, but it
really is wrong.

Yes well that is indeed a plus.

Can't argue that logic

JL

 

Nope it was an 860 twin

JL
I think, it's a very brief hazy memory now

 

Errm all of them got it right - they broke up with me didn't they ? Well
ok, all bar one. But she never progressed to her Ps - kidlet screwed
that one up for her.

JL
(all passed, all bar one still ride AFAIK)