Whinging Courier wrote[QUOTE] In uk.rec.motorcycles, steve auvache amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom: I don't see the point of that unless what you're getting as is to make running a car so inefficient that to use one at all is just not worth the aggro.[/QUOTE] It is completely the reverse, the trick is to make it so efficient that it can do the job of a tankful of petrol with just 3 AA cells and a subspace connection to a wormhole in Ursa Minor. Plugging a pallet sized battery pack into the mains may be a step on the way. [QUOTE] Coo! The things you learn. I'm really not thick but I didn't pay attention at school.[/QUOTE] This has mostly happened since you left school as it goes.