Need help from automotive spotters

Oh knowledge bank that is UKRM...

Anybody recognise what this carb and manifold is and what it'll fit?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.hedgehog/

Pics are a bit big!

I think it's to fit a 2L ford pinto, but it might be for a crossflow.

And the carb?

--

KillaHedgeHog AKA Paul Hendrick
YZF750R Bultaco Sherpa Fantic200
BONY#3 BOTAFOT#101

Remove KHH to reply by email

 

Carb looks very similar to the one on my old MkIV Escort 1.6CVH.

That doesn't help much, does it? ;-)

 

KillaHedgeHog said:

Looks like a 2L pinto as fitted to Cortina Mk4's.

 

It's defintely off a cross flow engne, as there's no space for the
exhausts.

Looks a little like a Fiat manifold to me, possibly an old Uno.

Is fucked. Looks like the entire top half is missing - note the lack of
a choke.

If you're anywhere neat Luton or St Albans, try contacting either Auto
Technique in Luton, or Brin Services in St Albans. If they don't know,
then nobody will.

 

A twin choke weber from a 2l Ford ohc will fit a Ford 1.3 ohv crossflow,
but you need the GT manifold. The jetting isn't too far off either,
without silencer or air filter.

That looks like a crossflow manifold. IIRC ohc have a coolant take off,
but its a long time since I've had any dealings with any Fords [1].


[1] The only good Ford is one without windows...

 

Definitely a crossflow engine, indeed.

I don't like to disagree Andy, but it is from a Ford Kent engine. The
legend "FoMOCo" embossed on the manifold assisted me in divining this
;-)
STFO - it's a Weber. 28/32 (off a 1300) or 32/36 (off a 1600). It
should have that info stamped into the plaques that are parallel to
the base, next to the gasket where it abuts the manifold.

That's how they look - but it does look fucked: not to mention it has
been painted with silver paint and the lettering picked out in red,
FFS.

 

....and the black deposits where its been sucking **** knows what from the
breathers give it that, shall we say interesting, air.

 

It's a bit like this one:
http://freespace.virgin.net/tommy.sandham/Weber2836.jpg

 

Well, you have been around longer than me

Most of the Kent engines I saw were Valencia lumps with the single point
injection on them.

The later engines also have longer tubes on the manifold too. I was
simply looking at the physical size of the thing.

Besides, I never was a fan of Fords anyway - nearly a low on my list as
Alfa Romeo are.

What, no choke?

I noticed the painting. Probably a poor attempt at customising at one
time.

 

Age hath its virtues. However, recalling 1974 - 1986 when I was
tinkering with such things has been a bit of a strain. And can I find
my Weber service manual when I want it for the first time in 20 years?
CIF!

I wouldn't know one of them if you smacked me in the gob with it ;-)

Mmm. Dell 'Orto 45s, mate. Lubbly.

You can see the choke butterflies in the top-down shot. The throttle
butterflies are right at the base of the carb, opening into the plinth
at the base of the carb sortathing. If you look at the diagram of the
28/36 (from a Cortina 1600GT) that I posted a link to, the choke
butterfly is No.55, the throttle butterfly No.45.

As to the appearance, they all looked like that when you took the
chrome pancake "air filter" off them (and threw it across the
workshop).

Indeed. Sad as a really sad bastard, eh?

 

Absolutely. You'll find it only after the need has passed.

Same engine, just made in Spain instead.

Blech.

Pierburgs, definitely the worst carbs made IMHO.

As I said, I wasn't around then

Yup. We still get them now too. Painted calipers and all that crap too.

 

It looks exactly like that one, cheers dude )

--

KillaHedgeHog AKA Paul Hendrick
YZF750R Bultaco Sherpa Fantic200
BONY#3 BOTAFOT#101

Remove KHH to reply by email

 

I know, tacky as **** aint it!

I can't even remember where I got it from now.

--

KillaHedgeHog AKA Paul Hendrick
YZF750R Bultaco Sherpa Fantic200
BONY#3 BOTAFOT#101

Remove KHH to reply by email

 

I was planning to ebay it off. I might just lob it in the bin now!

--

KillaHedgeHog AKA Paul Hendrick
YZF750R Bultaco Sherpa Fantic200
BONY#3 BOTAFOT#101

Remove KHH to reply by email

 

28/36 Webers are still of some interest to the classic mob - bung it on
ebay anyway, you might be surprised.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19

 

I've just stuck a weber DCOE45 on ebay with B series manifold and air
filter, tuned of an MGB... 137 quid so far! I fucking staggered!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447704773

I was hoping for 50 maybe 60 quid

--

KillaHedgeHog AKA Paul Hendrick
YZF750R Bultaco Sherpa Fantic200
BONY#3 BOTAFOT#101

Remove KHH to reply by email

 

With manifold and air filter, 50 would have been a bargain.

There's lots of folk into older cars and tuning them a li'l bit with the
bits they couldn't afford when they were younger.

A 45 on an MGB would have been overkill for normal street use, but on a
hobby car, it wouldn't affect the wallet too much.

I'd have given you 50 or 60 no problem if I'd had a B.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#16? FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19

 

I dunno - I nearly bought a Big Healy with three of 'em on.

 

The choke on this carb has no flap, it just adds more fuel, like the DCOE
type does, and like almost all bike carbs do.

--

KillaHedgeHog AKA Paul Hendrick
YZF750R Bultaco Sherpa Fantic200
BONY#3 BOTAFOT#101
Remove KHH to reply by email

 

I see. Yes, most bike carbs are Constant Vacuum type, and it's normal to
simply increase the fuel on those. However, it's more common on Constant
Venturi carbs to reduce the air flow instead.

I haven't actually seen such a carb myself before, so excuse the error
there.