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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ogden, Apr 14, 2005.

  1. 'Hog wrote
    One?
     
    steve auvache, Apr 15, 2005
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  2. ogden

    ogden Guest

    Not according to that web site. I've just put in a colleague's
    double-income amount, and it's capped it at 100k total.

    I didn't know about the 5k(ish) personal allowance, that takes the
    sting out of it quite heavily.
     
    ogden, Apr 15, 2005
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  3. They sort of sit oddly with the grumpy Genghis khan image and then he
    has a BMW as well which is more in keeping with fascist lunacy. The
    Beemer also conjures up a pipe, slippers and a cardigan and again they
    all fit with my mental image of the chap. Thous and Dukes don't.

    At this rate he'll never want to talk to me :)
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
  4. I fully understand those concerns and would agree with most of it. The
    compromises over key aspects of economic control to suit the
    difficulties encountered by the biggest countries do not bode well. If
    there was ever very serious economic trouble in the Euro Zone then I can
    foresee severe political and social unrest following swiftly.

    The absence of robust debate in the UK about the Euro is a great shame
    as I would certainly like to understand more about it.
    I'd agree with that too.

    Oh damn, time to join you in UKIP.
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
  5. ogden

    rb Guest

    I read that as 'nice little Tomahawk' (as in the cruise missile) which
    made me wonder if I should be greener.
     
    rb, Apr 15, 2005
  6. Killed any black people lately?
    You beat me to it.
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
  7. Only visited the place once but it is very odd. The adherence to the
    myriad of petty rules is quite amazing. You become scared of being
    nicked if you cross a junction when the red man is still showing - even
    when there isn't a car for miles.

    There are other strange rules like tenants can be evicted from state
    owned properties [1] if they make too much noise or if they don't put
    their rubbish out on the appointed days. There were various articles
    about this in the local newspapers.

    The other strange thing was the number of murders reported in the press.
    You'd imagine that such a controlled place wouldn't have many but it
    seems the restrictions cause people to go bonkers and then murder people
    for no apparent reason.

    The criminality re homosexual practices also made for a daring do time
    as well. While there is a gay scene people were extremely reticent
    about declaring how they felt - especially to foreigners.

    [1] i.e. made homeless with no right of appeal.
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
  8. I'd be £1,118 worse off. As I think my council tax is far too high I
    can't see why I'd vote for local income tax.
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
  9. On 15 Apr 2005 15:08:56 GMT, "PeterT@Home" <>
    wrote:

    [hog's view on German democracy]
    <ouch>

    Remind me not to provoke your ire.
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
  10. ogden

    rb Guest

    Hmm, I'd be worse off under that system. Which is a bit of a bugger as
    one of the factors in choosing this house was it's council tax banding.
     
    rb, Apr 15, 2005
  11. ogden

    PeterT@Home Guest

    Paul Corfield proposed
    As you rarely[1] spout drivel of similar proportions there is only a
    very slim chance of that happening. ;-)


    [1] Make that never[2]
    [2] at least as far as I have read your postings
     
    PeterT@Home, Apr 15, 2005
  12. ogden

    rb Guest

    I said it was *one* of the factors, as you well know. I should have
    said the council tax bill was a factor and not the banding anyway. I
    never asked about the banding for any of the houses on my short list
    but I did ask the vendors what level of council tax they were paying.
    Is that actually true? I thought council tax bandings were based on the
    value of the property, albiet in 1993. Identical houses in different
    locations could have different values, possibly putting them on
    different sides a banding threshold.

    In researching this post I found the site below. This is interesting as
    it puts the houses on the opposite side of my street into a different
    band to this side, even though they all appear to be of the same design.

    http://www.voa.gov.uk/council_tax/cti_home.htm
     
    rb, Apr 15, 2005
  13. ogden

    Fr Jack Guest

    And in other news today - darsy found with head jammed even further up his
    own arse.
    --

    Cheers!
    Fr Jack
    96 Tiger.
    FRJACKUKRM AT GMAIL DOT COM
    skype: fr.jack (without the dot)
     
    Fr Jack, Apr 15, 2005
  14. ogden

    Marc D Guest

    If you feel strongly about one issue, and wishy-washy on
    the others, of course it's going to count the one you
    feel strongly about much higher. So, closet tory are you?
     
    Marc D, Apr 15, 2005
  15. ogden

    dwb Guest

    Again, that's not fair and I'm surprised you'd actually say that.

    Whilst I may have selected no to the Euro and for that matter chosen
    negatively on asylum, that doesn't make me prone to 'kill black people'.
     
    dwb, Apr 15, 2005
  16. ogden

    wessie Guest

    darsy emerged from their own little world to say
    and barking old ladies like my mum who would be about £1100 better off
     
    wessie, Apr 15, 2005
  17. Ever heard of the word "joke"?

    I know it's a bit "pot and kettle" coming from me [1] but I was just
    teasing and I didn't expect you to take it quite so seriously.

    [1] Mr Terribly Serious all the time.
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
  18. ogden

    rb Guest

    I'm sure my neighbours would thank me for increasing their council tax
    bills.
    In our case we knew what we wanted and just needed to find somewhere we
    could afford it so location was everything.
    I suspected as much.
     
    rb, Apr 15, 2005
  19. ogden

    ogden Guest

    So? There's more to the lib dem manifesto than local income tax.

    I wouldn't be voting *for* local income tax, in the same way I
    wouldn't be voting *for* an increase in anything that leaves me
    poorer.

    I'd be voting *for* the rest of the manifesto, and *against* the
    alternatives. The fact that there might be a few bitter pills in
    among the bowls of sugar is just something I have to offset against
    the benefits. The funds for the things the lib dems want to do have
    to come from somewhere, and I'd rather see the money come from the
    haves than the have nots. Would you disagree?
     
    ogden, Apr 15, 2005
  20. **** off

    <flounce>
     
    Paul Corfield, Apr 15, 2005
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