Neat blade fuse idea

Leakage currents from something (but see 2).

1. Check if the immersion is wired from the RCD - to avoid nuisance
tripping, it shouldn't be. The cooker shouldn't be either, but if it is,
you might have a dodgy leaky switch and element.

2. The RCD might have gone over-sensitive and might be tripping on as
little as 5 or 10mA leakage current.

3. As it happens, all the wallwarts and computer PSUs plus all the other
bollocks that's left plugged in 24/7 these days can contribute quite a
bit in leakage current. Comp PSUs are bad for this, if you have 5 or 6
running.

4. To avoid angst, arrange a non-RCD feed to your freezer.

 

Bang wheeeeee... rat a tooie.
They're little cunts for that. Mice, otoh, don't seem to like PVC.

 

We had a snake get across the 480V buss for a fan. We never figured out
how it got inside the panel.

 

Oddly, it took a day or so to find it and by the time we found the rat,
it was only half a rat. We made the assumption it was another rat that
had eaten half of it.

We had to use the backup method of driving the milking plant (from a
tractor's PTO)

 

the man with no idea wrote:

Heh, same here. Just ordered some from TLC for my Wylex Board.

--
Dan L (Oldbloke)

My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
Space in shed where NSR125 used to be
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11

 

Having just googled the Wylex pug in jobbies, they only seem to be available
as B Rated. A motor rated (C or D) breaker might prove more robust, might
be worth contacting Wylex to see if a motor rated version is available.

--
Dan L (Oldbloke)

My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
Space in shed where NSR125 used to be
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11

 

Wot eee said...

Regards,

Simonm.

 

Replace the CB.

I've been told they trip if the bulb filament vaporises sufficiently
well when it blows and the conductivity shoots up for an instant,
allowing enough current to flow to trip the breaker. This seems to be
right, as I've found some brands (Philips especially) seem to do it more
than others. If the CB is ageing, it'll trip too easily.

That's house wiring. I guess it's similar on a bike.


Regards,

Simonm (who couldn't be a###d except he's had to give up on the car's brake
pads as (a) it's far too cold and (b) he's not got the right socket...fnarr.)

 

Could be. Thermal protective circuits tend to degrade over time, especially
if they are periodically exercised. Sort of like the pop-up indicator on a
Butterball turkey, but not really.

doc

 

OIC. The excess current that causes your light bulb to blow isn't a "short
circuit."

That bit was written in fun. I thought you Brits and your celebrated sense
of humor would appreciate it. I forgot that you're also a bunch of
curmudgeons with stiff upper lips and no sense of humor at all. My mistake.
Please don't slaughter everyone in my village in order to put me in my
place.

Will you return the favor?

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, doc

The excess current... That causes...

Oh, FFS. You really are incredibly stupid, even for a Septic.

With pleasure.

<plonk>

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
public toilet with the lid closed.

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SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
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Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 

Wasn't it you who said to put a nail across it? Here's the deal: I'll take
you seriously if you'll return the favor. Or I'll laugh if you'll laugh.
Or any combination of the two. I'm flexible.

doc

 

So, if it isn't excess current that causes the bulb to blow and the circuit
breaker to trip, what is it? Excess voltage? Insufficient resistance? A
newly discovered exception to Ohm's Law that only applies to this
particular circuit? Faeries?

You don't have a fucking clue, do you? And you call me stupid?

Oh, that's right; I've been plonked, so you get to continue with your
dismal ignorance without having to listen to anyone who you disagree with.
Shut out the light, WUN, and only darkness ensues. Not that you'd ever
understand, you close-minded little troglodyte.

All my best,
doc

 

Don't worry about it, the RAF are precision-bombing experts;
carpet-bombing is the USAF's gig.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, doc

Oh wait, I see the problem. You're American.

OK, one last time, go and read up on UK (this is a UK group, y'know)
household electrical systems.

When you understand ring mains and that we don't have primitive
individual feeds to each light (we don't use those fucking awful wire
nuts either), then and *only* then will you be able to offer any sort of
opinion on the cause of the problem.

Clue. Whenever *any* bulb on the circuit blows (and they blow through
old age, not because of a fault in the wiring) then the single CB that
protects *all* the lighting circuits in my house pops.

You see, in this context, you're the one without a clue.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
public toilet with the lid closed.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 

doc wrote

Well, most commonly it is not a short circuit which makes the bulb blow
in the first place but the bulb blowing in the first place that causes
the short circuit. That is often what happens most of the time but not
all of it. It is the debris from the disintegrating innards of the bulb
landing where it shouldn't which actually conspire to cause the short
circuit which makes the trip trip or the fuse blow depending on your
personal technological environment, or the nail get hot. As to what
makes the innards of the bulb disintegrate that is something that we are
perhaps better off not knowing given the OP. As to what makes the bulb
go that will depend on the bulb but most of the time it is put down to
old age even when the old age is artificially induced by mistreatment.

 

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote

That's not right Nige, I'd do something about that if it were me.

Well actually I wouldn't but we're not here to discuss me are we?

 

Crap. At least with the USAF, I'd stand a chance as long as I was at
ground-zero. Whatever happened to the British tradition of sportsmanship?

Best,
doc

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, steve auvache

Yeah, I know. It's only the CB that plays up. If I bung the
old-fashioned wire fuse back in there all is well.

I think the CB's just too sensitive and the slight spike as the blub
blows trips it.

An electrician friend said "yeah, mine does that too...". Very helpful.

I know (as I think Zymurgy mentioned up ^^^ there) you can get some
slow-blow CB's that are less sensitive to very short spikes. I was
hoping someone could recommend a model.

Then Johnny Septic started shouting bollocks, and it all got rather
tedious.

Why ever not? How's life in Essex? MongVan back on form, is it? Up for a
repeat trip to Dingle's World Of Closed Steam if I get back down to
ooh-ahrr land this year?

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
public toilet with the lid closed.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000

 

Don't worry. This is ukrm, not the US Army.