Navagtion Aids

After something like a Tom-tom for my bike and Car . So what ever I buy
will have to be easily moved between them. Ok, I have the BMW K1200R and it
has a socket but will that work for these devices ?

Also how would you go about getting earphones etc in the helmet so you can
hear the instructions and / or mp3's ( helmet is a Nolan Classic N-Com
N102...well will be when I get the parts that fell of replaced )

And yes the amount of research I have done is sfa because I believe the
intelligence and experience in this group will give outstanding results (
thats my groveling for this year done )

thanks

will

 

I can't speak for the other brands available, but Tomtom Rider can
switch between car and bike easily but doesn't have a speaker so you can
only hear instructions through a bluetooth headset. Doesn't bother me
at all of course. The instructions are fucking annoying. I prefer to
glance at the screen occasionally instead. As for the power the TomTom
Rider mounting bracket is powered so you just wire that directly into
your fusebox.

TomTom comes with it's own bluetooth headset (mono). I made my own
adapter so that I could just plug in my headphones I use with my MP3
player instead. Have only used it once on the bike, riding through
Sydney. Didn't really enhance the experience much over just looking at
the screen. Having a voice spewing out instructions repeatedly is quite
annoying.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

Have a look at the Garmin zumo
- http://www.gpsoz.com.au/garmin_zumo.htm

 

Thanks Nev

How do they hold up in the rain ? I hope they are sealed and I assume they
are on the expensive side

 

the $1549 makes it a little out of the price range but thanks Burnie

 

Have a look at the Garmin Quest. There is a motorcycle powered cradle (with
audio socket) available. I use one in both my ute and my K1100RS.

Andrew

 

Maps are much cheaper. I highly recommend the Australian Motorcycle Atlas.
Fits neatly in the plastic see-through bit on the tankbag too. $26.95.
http://www.guidesgalore.com.au/default.asp?p=product&productid=4149

Theo

 

The argument goes
"A paper map cannot fail like an electronic device"

To which the response goes
"Ever tried to read a paper map at 110kph in the rain ?"

A GPS is significantly more useful than a paper map
I use both

 

GPS to consider for onroad use;

Garmin zumo
GPSmap 276C
Quest


GPS to consider for offroad use;

GPSmap 276C
GPSmap 60Cx
Magellan eXplorist XL

 

Often. It isn't hard.

As Theo said:"Fits neatly in the plastic see-through bit on the tankbag".

For road use, a GPS is only as good as the electronic mapping available.

As I understand it, mapping of Oz is sufficiently good to make GPSs
useful here, but I'm still trying to find decent e-mapping for Greece.


regards,
CrazyCam

 

You could get a paper map, but they'll be all Greek.

Theo

 

Indeed, Theo, I have, in the past, managed with paper maps in Greek.

The big trouble with navigating in Greece is that most of the signs by
the road side have been covered over by adverts for the local
butcher/nightclub/drug dealer, so it becomes a full time job being
navigator.

Angie is not, understandably, interested in doing that full time job,
but neither is she particularly keen on driving over there.

She helps out by doing all the swearing. ;-)

If I can get a system which warns me when I am 100 metres away from ,
say, a right turn, I can then see if there is indeed such a right turn,
or, perhaps that the road junction has been re-aligned in some way.
(which happens a lot in Greece).

Even a "moving map" type system would help considerably, without the
turn by turn instruction.

I have Microsoft's Autoroute software, which claims to cover Europe,
but, while it seems to give excellent coverage of Scotland, is pathetic
for Greece, outside of Athens.

So far, the best I have found is OziExplorer on the laptop, with a blue
tooth GPS, and marine charts for Greece, which also show quite a
reasonable range of the major roads.

Given the wide variety of (often unexpected) expertise in all sorts of
stuff displayed by aus.moto folk, I thought I'd mention the problem in
case someone had a solution.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Next you'll be expecting a policeman who can spell!

If I was doing a drive-yourself in a country where I didn't speak the lingo
or recognise the alphabet, I'd certainly be looking at a Nav-system. In Oz,
I'd stick to paper maps. Now if I was going to Scotland........

Theo

 

Even being comfortable with the language and alphabet, I am looking for
a Nav-system, as I have explained.

Me too. After all, while it _is_ a big place, there aren't really that
many roads.

you'd have absolutely no problems at all.

You'd be able to read the street signs, and probably have a better
chance than most english folk of pronouncing place names.

Paper maps, OS 1" to the mile, are absolutely superb.

You'd also have a better shot at understanding most Scottish accents
than the poms do.

Remember, Dutch is only bad German, spoken with a Scottish accent.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

That may be the Scottish perception. The reality is, when I was last there,
I might as well have been in Greece. Reading signage was not a problem,
verbal directions were given in an entirely different language.

Theo

 

Ah, I see what you were doing wrong.

Even Scottish folk don't ask for verbal directions unless they are in
their own town or village.

The folk just up the road talk funny and are a bit hard to understand.

Stick to showing them a map and getting them to point to where you are.
(Kinda like a non-electronic GPS!)

regards,
CrazyCam

 

I had more luck in Germany (Dutch _is_ a different language by the way),
people there tried to speak English, not thought they were.

Theo

 

Moite, you are fishing again!

If Scottish folk thought they were english they would either run away to
the other side of the world, or try and drink themselves to death as
quickly as possible.


Hmmmm, maybe that's what we are doing wrong?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

In what manner does their version of point differ ?

 

That reminds me about a joke that starts
"One fine day in Scotland a troop of Roundheds were marching ..."