Nasty accident this afternoon - long

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007.

  1. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    I popped out for a ride this afternoon and was heading along the A458 from
    Stourbridge towards Bridgnorth when a dozen or so cars going in the opposite
    direction started flashing their lights and waving to slow down. A quarter
    of a mile up the road was the wreckage from a car and bike crash that looked
    like it had only just happened , just by the buildings in the centre of this
    map.


    http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v...dgnorth, England, United Kingdom___&encType=1

    A couple of cars had stopped and there were two people lying on the pavement
    , one on either side of the road. None of the emergency services had arrived
    so I stopped to see if there was anything I could do. I'd been a plod for a
    while so I figured I could still remember some first aid and how to direct
    traffic as cars were still driving past.

    The car was in a hedge to the north side of the road with the front
    completely caved in , the windscreen smashed and the roof flattened.
    The two occupants had , I think , hit the lowered roof line but didn't seem
    too badly hurt other than relatively minor cuts.

    The bike , a Hyabusa , was nearby in two big chunks and a pile of smaller
    bits. The frame had snapped above the engine and the engine block seemed to
    have cracked. The forks and handlebars weren't too far away with the remains
    of the front wheel still attached and hundreds of bits of plastic and metal
    scattered all over the road.

    Twenty metres further along on the pavement on the same side was the rider
    who looked very badly hurt. His one leg was bent back underneath him in an
    unnatural position but he was breathing and was at least partly conscious.
    He was being looked after by a couple of people so I went to check on the
    person on the other side of the road on the verge. Worryingly the rider's
    helmet was a lot further down the road than he was and had been converted to
    an open face lid. The whole front section had been ripped away and the chin
    strap had torn away. Luckily he didn't seem to have landed on his head.

    The chap further down turned out to have been the passenger on the bike and
    was another 20m along the road and was being looked after by someone else.
    He was conscious and talking normally and while obviously in some pain
    didn't look in too bad a way all things considered. At this point the first
    ambulance turned up which was a relief. Whilst I'd stopped with the
    intention of doing first aid if needed it's always good to know that those
    more suited to the job have arrived. Anyway , I helped them carry some stuff
    and then busied myself stopping the traffic and turning them round while
    they got on with what they are doing.

    Eventually the police turned up and started doing what they needed to do ,
    shortly followed by two air ambulances. The two guys were loaded onto them
    after a while and taken away and with nothing left for me to do I left. I
    did consider taking a couple of pics of the wreckage but decided against it.
    It seemed far too morbid for my liking and it had the potential to be a
    fatal accident. The police were treating it as such and were already taking
    measurements and photos.

    The passenger was obviously going to be fine but the rider was much more
    seriously hurt. They were concerned about chest and back/neck damage plus
    the obviously snapped leg. From the position of the wreckage and what the
    couple of witnesses had said , the bike was heading from Bridgnorth and had
    been overtaking cars well into three figure speeds. The road is pretty
    straight at this point but isn't flat and there's plenty of blind crests.
    The car involved had stopped to turn into a driveway , indicated and began
    to turn when the bike had come over the crest towards them about 50-60
    metres away , midway between the buildings and road junction on the map. The
    highway code reckons on 73m stopping distance at the 60mph limit here so a
    sports bike should have been able to pull up ok , or at the very worst be
    pretty slow at the point of impact. From the damage to both vehicles , the
    way the car had been spun back the way it came and the distance the
    passenger had been flung I'd guess they were still doing 50ish at the point
    of impact. The rider had gone into the windscreen of the car and I think his
    helmet had probably split as he hit the roof , with the passenger going
    right over the top and off to one side.

    I don't think you could put much blame on the car driver as they were doing
    what they were perfectly entitled to do and had the bike been slower it
    would have been alright. It did just seem like a case of very inappropriate
    speed on that particular bit of road as there are plenty of turnings and
    slow moving vehicles are to be expected. There are some stretches when you
    can clearly see and others where you can't and the potential for something
    like this is obvious.

    Oh , and the passenger didn't know the rider's surname , was only wearing
    jeans , a jacket and helmet but no gloves and looked like he might have been
    taken out for a quick spin , with the rider showing off what his bike could
    do. I'd imagine that could result in an interesting conversation assuming
    that the rider survived.

    I'd had my girlfriend with me at the time , and this was only her second
    time on the bike so I wouldn't be surprised if this puts her off further
    trips.

    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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  2. That looks like a nice race track just to the left of Chapel Lane :)
     
    Whinging Courier, May 20, 2007
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  3. Dr Zoidberg

    Nige Guest

    I know folk moan on about 'speed kills' etc, but speed like this nearly
    always does as it was very reckless by the sound of it.

    Hope he pulls through mind.

    Not nice to see owt like that at all.
     
    Nige, May 20, 2007
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  4. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    The caravan owners may object :0)
    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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  5. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    It was just the wrong place to give it the beans.

    A bit further east is a nice straight section with very clear visibility
    that would have been a much better choice and 1XX isn't a problem.
    Nope , not at all.
    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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  6. It looks like most of them have moved out already
     
    Whinging Courier, May 20, 2007
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  7. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Mostly paperwork actually. :0/
    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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  8. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Hehehe , it's a touring site rather than one for static sheds so I'm
    guessing that was taken out of season.
    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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    Ferger Guest

    Nige secured a place in history by writing:
    FFS, Nige, you are never going to avoid abuse in here if you can't learn to
    snip....
     
    Ferger, May 20, 2007
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    BGN Guest

    If he does survive then I'm sure the police will have him in court
    sharpish to make him feel better.
     
    BGN, May 20, 2007
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  11. Dr Zoidberg

    boxerboy Guest

    Yes we heard the choppers from where we live, knew something was up
    when we stopped hearing bikes on open race pipes giving it welly!
    The road is notorious, especially at the weekend.

    Boxerboy
     
    boxerboy, May 20, 2007
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  12. Dr Zoidberg

    Matt Guest

    <snip>

    Well done Dr Zoidberg on helping out.

    /pats on back
     
    Matt, May 20, 2007
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  13. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Three in total , two air ambulances and the west mids police helicopter
    taking photos

    It is indeed , though the police know it just as well and are often lurking
    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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  14. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    As it turned out I really didn't do much , but you don't know that when you
    stop and it could have been quite different.
    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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  15. On the grounds of good taste, I say, well done. You are the Anti-McKev.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 20, 2007
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  16. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Woo Hoo!!
    That's nice to hear.

    It'll possibly show up on a "speed kills" poster anyway , but what I find a
    bit more worrying is that the locals were talking about getting the speed
    limit lowered as there had been a couple of other accidents recently. This
    one was certainly caused by someone blatantly ignoring the limit and the
    other two that were mentioned involved a car rolling with nobody else
    involved (probably ignoring the limit as it would be very hard to crash
    otherwise) and someone pulling out from a junction in front of another car
    (either stupidity by car A or huge speed by car B).

    In all three cases reducing the limit from 60 to 50 would be totally
    irrellevant , wouldn't improve safety and just inconvenience people.

    --
    Alex

    "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, May 20, 2007
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    Christofire Guest

    "Coming to a Brunstrom Briefing near you soon!"
     
    Christofire, May 20, 2007
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  18. Dr Zoidberg

    Hog Guest

    The proper reaction should be to re-engineer the road
     
    Hog, May 20, 2007
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  19. Dr Zoidberg

    Christofire Guest

    <snip big off>

    In contrast, while out this morning I spotted a bike parked up, rider
    stood next to it with helmet off and phone out. They watched me
    approach, so I pulled in and checked they were ok.

    Turns out she'd passed her test during the week, come to a
    crossroads[1] and been caught out by the pretty steep road crown. A
    few scrapes, bent clutch lever, snapped the end off the gear change.
    She was going to call the RAC - but I put forward the suggestion of
    sticking it in first or second and don't change gear at all. I'd have
    tried to toe it up and down, but we agreed that it wasn't easy at
    standstill and while the bike and she were both new to each other it
    wasn't a good idea.

    I was trying not to be patronsining, but I don't think I managed. Oh
    well.

    [1]http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?
    v=2&cp=53.609803~-2.470626&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&sp=Point.srphvygsyfy4_Bridgnorth
    %2C%20England%2C%20United%20Kingdom___&encType=1
    She'd approached along Smithills
     
    Christofire, May 20, 2007
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  20. Dr Zoidberg

    GungaDan Guest

    Surely the obvious solution was to ride her bike home for her while
    she took your 10R...
     
    GungaDan, May 21, 2007
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