NART update from Turby Turbosufer...

Turby reports in by email:

To all, etc...

I'm in San Rafael right now (Monday morning,) staying at a friend's
house. For some reason, I can't post to Google groups from her
computer. hmmm. In any case, I spent most of yesterday at the beach with
friends. Today, I'm heading up to Sonoma to see another friend, and we
may get in the water again. (The shirts are seeing a lot of the Pacific
Ocean.)

Tomorrow, I'll be riding the East Bay roads the group showed me while at
Alice's. Then Wednesday & Thursday, more central California roads. I
plan on camping at Leo Carrillo Beach Park on Thursday night, then
hitting the Rockstore on Friday morning. There's a good chance that all
could be pushed back a day. Does anybody have any preferences on when we
meet at the
Rockstore?

Tom
aka Turby
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Safe ride Turby...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

I think the whole west is setting a NART speed record.
Good work!
I'm planning on heading down to Valencia for Magic Mountain in 2 weeks. Will
the shirt be in the LA area then?

 

Recent update on Tom...

"Finally, some recent history...Yesterday and today I've been riding the
hell out of the Sonoma and Marin county roads. I've found some great
ones. The best named road so far is The Bohemian Highway. I feel like I
spent 15 years on that road before I ever saw it. I wore out a front
tire. The Honda shop in Corte Madera wanted 54 dollars just to change
it! Now that's hiway robbery.
Talk to you guys soon,
the Turbomeister"

posted by...
Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

Dang! Wish I would have know he'd need a front tire last Saturday. I
could have let him use my busy little shop and my tools to do it!
Coulda saved him sum bux!

Hey Larry, I was mentioning your 'Shit Bird' story to a friend. (My
kids laughed their asses off when I told them how you taught Shit Bird
to fly) He asked what kind of bird it was and I told him it was a
Blue Jay.
Friend turns out to be quite a "birdologist" and say to me that Blue
Jays don't live in CA. Said it was probably a "Steller's Jay" WTF? All
my life I've been calling them "Blue Jays" Dang!

Strange name "Stellar's Jay" Just who is this "Stellar" anyway!
Like he owns all of them or something!

Rayvan

 

Recently (Rayvan) honored rec.motorcycles
with:

Well, that's at least the second tire change at a remote cycle shop
directly attributable to NART. I had to change my rear tire while in
Seattle, it cost as much as Turby's job. Oh by the way, I have a NART
page running, comments appreciated:

http://www.xmission.com/~tiger885/motorbike/NART/nart.html

The next step in my html tinkering is to set up browser redirection.
The rendering differences between Mozilla Firefox and Internet
Exploder are extensive. Don't even ask me about Nutscrape, I'm
ignoring it for now.

 

Your friend is also wrong. Steller's Jays live in the Sierras, but not in
the Central Valley. Shitbird is a Scrub Jay, which we have in abundance.

 

Holly called it...

Scrubjay
http://birds.cornell.edu/BOW/WSCJAY/

Sellerjay
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/framlst/i4780id.html

No matter confused Shitbird was in his own category... he though he was
a bug... spent his days crawling on the ground... refusing to stay safe
up into the trees... I think he was eaten by a cat who pulled off the
prefect murder...
http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/ShitBirdListens.JPG

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

We have two jays on the left coast, Stellars and Scrub/Mexican jays. The
Stellars Jays have a black head/crest and blue lower body, while the
Mexican/Scrub jays are greyish and bluish, and have no crests.

 

We have Stellars here in the bay area too.

 

Where? Perhaps in the Santa Cruz Mountains or some such?

 

We've got blue jays in the Santa Clara Valley (not as many as when I
was a kid, but hey...) They're loud and obnoxious. Stellar's Jay has
a darker head, a crest and mostly live in the redwoods up in the
hills.

An 18th century naturalist. He visited the Northern Pacific with Vitus
Behring. Several species he first described are named for him.

This page also claims that bluejays don't come west of the Sierras, so
maybe the bird I think of as a bluejay isn't really one. On the other
hand, it's definitely not a Stellar's Jay.
http://www.naturepark.com/stellars.htm

Al Moore
DoD 734

 

You can see lots of them in Big Basin State Park. Or anyplace else
with redwood trees, really.

Al Moore
DoD 734

 

LOL! Well that explains why I never see them in the Sacramento Valley, or
when I lived in Berkeley, SF, or Belmont, for that matter. FWIW-- they seem
to simply prefer a conifer forest habitat--- I see them in the Sierras all
the time even when there aren't sequoias around. I like Steller's Jays. They
are pretty, obnoxious, bold, ubiquitous, with a predisposition to swoop down
and steal food right off your plate if you're not paying attention. Scrub
Jays are their drab, mild-mannered cousins. They're all members of the crow
family, so that tells a lot about the kind of birds they are.

 

Marin, Santa Cruz, Monterey, at least (all places I've lived)... They
do seem to like woods, and probably avoid overly (sub)urbanized areas.

 

then its a Western Scrub Jay
http://birds.cornell.edu/BOW/WSCJAY/
http://www.montereybay.com/creagrus/scrub-jays.html

btw, my mistake, in a earlier posting, I said 'scrub or mexican jay',
turns out these are now considered seperate species, and they don't
overlap.

 

Sierra Nevada Means What it Says and Where is it Anyway?

by Guy Rocha, Nevada State Archivist

Misconception and mispronunciation, rather than long-standing myth,
principally underlies this story about the massive mountain range that
separates a sizable portion of California from Nevada. Winter brings
snowstorms in, and around, the Sierras, Sierra Nevada MOUNTAINS or the
SIERRA NEVADAS. However, these pronunciations are inaccurate.

Padre Pedro Font is credited with placing the Sierra Nevada definitively
on a map for the first time in 1776. Sierra means saw-toothed mountain
range and Nevada means snow-covered. How many times have you heard
television news reporters and anchors, radio broadcasters, newspaper
journalists, and people unfamiliar with the Spanish language refer to
the Sierra Nevada as the Sierra Nevadas? East-coast based news accounts
are generally the worst, making a plural out of Sierra Nevada akin to
the Rocky Mountains becoming the Rockies (that's acceptable). At the
same time, you can always tell when a new journalist or writer
unfamiliar with the magnificent mountain range comes to town and
compounds the problem, referring to the Sierra Nevada when he or she
points out the nearby cities of Carson City in the Carson Valley (it's
in Eagle Valley) and Reno in Washoe Valley (it's in the Truckee
Meadows).

In addition, what do the tens of millions of Spanish speaking people,
particularly those in the western United States, think when they hear
Sierra Nevada Mountains (SNOW-COVERED SAW-TOOTH MOUNTAIN RANGE
MOUNTAINS) or the Sierra Mountains (MOUNTAIN RANGE MOUNTAINS)? Do people
in New Mexico and Texas refer to the Rio Grande as the Rio Grande River?

Now here is something that might surprise people who have lived in the
area a while and know to call the Sierra Nevada the Sierra Nevada or
just the Sierra: technically the Sierra Nevada and its crest line is
wholly and solely in California. Yes, I know, when the immigrants
crossed the Great Basin and saw this huge mountain range looming in
front of them, they called it the Sierra Nevada. I would hazard a guess
that most people when they look at Job's Peak, or King's Canyon, or
Slide Mountain and Mount Rose, they refer to the Sierra Nevada. I
certainly have! However, when you talk to geographers and geologists
they tell you what you are looking at is the Carson Range, officially
named in 1939 for pioneer scout Kit Carson, and not the Sierra Nevada.
The biggest concession I was able to get was that it was a mountain spur
of the Sierra Nevada.

However, the Sierra Nevada crest line is clearly west of Lake Tahoe. All
of this would have been so much easier had California agreed to the
language in Nevada's Organic (1861) and Enabling (1864) Acts and given
Nevada the land east from the crest of the Sierra. Of course, California
was not about to relinquish Lake Tahoe and a significant portion of its
eastern border which now includes the communities of Susanville,
Truckee, Tahoe City, South Lake Tahoe, Markleeville, Coleville,
Bridgeport, Lee Vining, Bishop and points south. So remember Sierra is
plural for mountains, and Nevada is not to be made plural, and you will
look and sound sage. And as far as I am concerned the Carson Range is a
part of the Sierra Nevada, if only just a majestic, breath-taking spur.




















"A man compounded of law and gospel is able to cheat a whole country
with his religion and destroy them under color of law."

Benjamin Franklin

 

Interesting. So where do the actual "Blue Jays" live? (Been calling
the Stellers "Blue" forever because, well, they're blue!

Rayvan

 

east coast, at least. probably midwest too, but I've not spent any
signfiicant time there.

 

(Rayvan) wrote in

Actual Blue Jays live in Toronto.

http://www.bluejays.com

BTW, if it's a jay and it's blue wouldn't it be a blue jay?

 

Yeah. When I was a kid (and now, too, come to that) we always called
them bluejays, but that may be because most people around here came
from east of the Sierras, and that's what they resemble.

Al Moore
DoD 734