[QUOTE] It sort of depends on your definition of 'propshaft' but the drive shaft that ran the length of the car spins at engine revs all the time[1] [QUOTE] but this car isn't though.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] [QUOTE] I bow to your greater knowledge [1]At least AFAICR. Bloody sure I'm right though, cos the clutch is at the back as well.[/QUOTE] Yup, same as anything with a transaxle - other than Alfa, the most common here are probably Porsche 924/944/968 and Volvo 340/360. I'm quite liking the idea of a 3.8 Jag XK lump in a Volvo 340, I have to admit.