Multifunction Catch-up Post.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Salad Dodger, Feb 21, 2005.

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    Salad Dodger Guest

    1. The clonking: turns out it was the Datatool bouncing around between
    the glovebox and the air tubes in the fairing. now secured under an
    old bike-washing sponge.

    2. Shifting 250 litres of damp compost from an old broken bin to a new
    one is not a dream job.

    3. Projects: How do people put up with the corporate lunacy these
    things generate?
     
    Salad Dodger, Feb 21, 2005
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  2. You're the new Monty Don?! Are you one of the new presenters on
    Gardeners World on Friday?
    You dream about murdering work colleagues in your sleep and somehow
    resist the temptation to translate the dream into reality.
     
    Paul Corfield, Feb 21, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Oh shit. I knew I should have read the last chapter in that book.

    Expect "paging Kiran - legal advice needed" post shortly.
     
    Ben Blaney, Feb 22, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    one of my senior developers asked if it would be OK to bring his
    shotgun in to meetings with senior management.
     
    darsy, Feb 22, 2005
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    flash Guest

    I think you'd only allowed to flush them out with pairs of dogs these days.
     
    flash, Feb 22, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    days.

    nah - "Hunting with Baboons" is still pukka.
     
    darsy, Feb 22, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    what's wrong with projects?

    Or are you objecting to projects with no management?
     
    darsy, Feb 22, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    I thought it was his project - ie he was the management...
     
    dwb, Feb 22, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    ah - that'd explain it.
     
    darsy, Feb 22, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    It was a joke, implying that Paul's mention of dreaming about
    murdering colleagues had been taken place in my reality. Just a joke.

    I am in rather a spot of bother with an absolutely enormous Exchange
    migration taking place, for which I have inadequate staff
    (customer-supplied), inadequate time in which to deliver
    (customer-determined) and some rather important stuff going on which
    relies on the systems we're about to **** with.
     
    Ben Blaney, Feb 22, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    Shrub's personal mail account? :)
     
    dwb, Feb 22, 2005
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    trezz Guest

    And posting to usenet will get it done much quicker.
     
    trezz, Feb 22, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    I think you'll find Ben is managing the project, not doing the physical
    work.

    Therefore posting on usenet will probably get it done quicker as it stops
    him getting in the way of the people doing the work :)
     
    dwb, Feb 22, 2005
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    trezz Guest

    That would make sense.
     
    trezz, Feb 22, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    at a macro level, we use an internally defined process called "The IT
    Project Lifecycle", which is basically RUP with the serial numbers
    filed off.

    Individual PMs seem to vary massively in quality here, with some not
    using any coherant policy at all. What usually goes wrong is a
    combination of over-promising/under-delivering and not being strict
    enough about sticking to deadlines.

    We also have some *huge* disconnects between different
    departments/factions within IT, and a lack of goal congruity between
    the IT facility as a whole and the business.

    I only get involved in managing projects at a tactical level, though I
    act as internal consultant for strategy. The projects I run are almost
    all based on a lightweight development methodology, Scrum in
    particular. Nothing goes wrong on my projects ;-)

    Angie, and almost everyone in local authority project management uses
    Prince 2.
     
    darsy, Feb 22, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Because that's the way the customer does things. No debate. That's
    Govt. contracting for you. Far, far from ideal. At least it's
    challenging.
    Shamefully, we work on a "suck it and see" basis. It's not really a
    project; it's really a massive staff aug, with lots of little projects
    dotted around in pockets that comprise my staff and customer-supplied
    personnel. I don't really have much control, except to insist that
    something is (a) illegal, or (b) way outside scope. Almost everything
    we do is outside scope, so I just save that for when we *can't* do
    something.
     
    Ben Blaney, Feb 22, 2005
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  17. I've just been threatened with having to go on a PM course. I'm
    desperately trying to make sure it isn't a Prince 2 course.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Feb 22, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    charms?

    Like anything else, if done right, it's a Good Thing. Almost no-one
    does it right. It's also, IMO, only worth doing if everyone at every
    level on the project is fairly technically-oriented. There's no point
    in talking to a marketing chick about Actors and Use-cases. Generally,
    I don't like it - I'm not generally a fan of Big Design Upfront, and
    heavyweight methodologies in general.
    RAD's good for one thing, and one thing only: proof-of-concepts and
    wireframe prototypes. On anything "real", it's a recipe for ****-ups.

    I was speaking to our Chief Architect the other day about why things go
    wrong, why things that go right take ages to finish, why things are
    just Not Good in general. We came to the - IMO - sound conclusion that
    it is because the company employs 90% morons.
    PMs suffer from "la-la-la I can't hear you" syndrome when developers
    tell them things aren't going to plan. Worse, some developers
    (thankfully none of my team) are poor at communicating the fact that
    things are going wrong. This situtation rapidly snowballs into major
    ****-up mode.
    Here, for example, our Infrastructure and Production team are actually
    the major hindrance to getting a code release propagated from Dev
    through UAT to Development. Go figure.

    [Scrum]
    It's a lightweight methodology that relies on getting good people, in
    relatively small teams. It's not pretentious, like XP, and it doesn't
    have the attitude like "oh, waterfall methodology was all 100%
    inherently bad, so we'll do nothing like it at all, even if it's just
    common sense" that some agile processes do.

    http://www.controlchaos.com/
    a) not at all - some of the systems I run as projects rely on
    technologies of which I have little (or no recent) experience of (C++,
    Flash Actionscript, VB).
    b) much as I'd like to do this, all the stuff I work on is both tightly
    budgeted and deadlined.
    c) that's a factor - being able to trust your staff is vital. +
    d) Hiring non-cunts.
    it's worth noting also, that since passing the Prince 2 Practioners
    exam (as opposed to the theory one), her "being pestered by job agents"
    quotient has gone up by a magnitude.

    Interesting to see that Phil is trying to avoid Prince 2 - IME it seems
    to be a "add a good chunk to your potential salary" indicator if
    coupled with sufficient experience.
     
    darsy, Feb 22, 2005
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    flash Guest

    Don't shoot until you see the reds of their bottoms.
     
    flash, Feb 22, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Quelle surprise.
    I don't mind it, funnily enough. Partly because I know that after
    this, I can make any steaming pile of shite work.
    Pretty much. Might well have my mortgage paid off in a couple of
    years; as long as I can stem the tide of buying motorbikes and cars.
     
    Ben Blaney, Feb 22, 2005
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