Mugged!

What's your point?

If you are saying that "things were bad, then they got better, now
they're getting worse again", then it's hardly a new one, and very
difficult to justify by the evidence. Most advocates of the "good old
days" point to the 50s as a golden era, but it's no more than an
illusion, mostly due to the distortions caused by WW2 [it can be
argued that the sense of common purpose, with shared rationing, etc,
during the war did decrease crime, and it took a while for the
'normal' tensions in society to re-emerge.]

 

So? Who said the knowledge was for their benefit?

 

While I think there's a lot of truth in this, there's also many, many
individual examples of people "reforming" (for want of a better word),
some famous (e.g. John McVicar).

 

Bleeding Hearts and Liberals Club. A tag given to those who stand up
for the rule of law against the Vigilante-tendency. Back when numbers
in your sig were all the rage, I used to give them out.

 

....and what sort of message do you think TOG's son would draw from
that?

 

I didn't say they couldn't change themselves, just that outside
pressures will not themselves cause them to change.

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Therein lies the problem. Sadly, there's not a lot we can do.

Bleeding Heart and Liberal Club - Champ is one of the founder
members.

 

"TOG's a lover, not a fighter"

 

And that'll do him how much good, exactly?

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F**king hell. I've changed from a hard right 'string 'em up and sack
the miners' Thatcherite into a wet liberal pinko so gradually I didn't
even notice....

 

<Falls off chair as he realises that he agrees with something that
ogden posted>

Phil

 

came up with the following;:

I don't, nowadays, see it as revenge, more as an education for scrotes. I
explain in a mo' ...

If that were but true ...

I'm a school caretaker for an infants and a primary school, living on site
in 'The School Bungalow', which is in it's own section of school grounds,
fenced off from school on two sides, bungalow on one end and trees/wetland
area with fence on opposite end, so obviously and distinctly separate from
school. We put a trampoline up for my kids to play on in our back garden,
only a few months ago. Since then we've had to repair the fence on one side
(next to a path) three times, until I finally had to put up a ****-off
six-foot monstrosity to keep the local bastards out, from when they then
started screwing with the school wetland, trees and fence on the other sides
to get in.

They simply DO NOT understand 'normal' people acting normally. We had to
'hide' our back garden away so they couldn't see that our kids had something
they didn't have. Why should we stop our kids fun just so some little
bastard can slash their trampoline net, or remove every third spring, or saw
a fucking leg off of it? We wouldn't mind so much if they had fucking used
it, or played on it, or just enjoyed it, but all they did was **** it up so
our kids and their mates couldn't use it. They nicked a push-bike, a
scooter, broke the number plate and lights twice on my bike trailer, and
once on the camping traler, tried to get into the shed numerous times,
graffittied our kitchen windows and all kinds of other, mostly petty but
extremely aggravating, stuff.

Shit, they even tried to nick my Landrover twice, and slashed a tyre on it
when I saw them and chased them off, and they are expensive tyres.

The police, despite repeated calls, hours of video evidence, a fucking
jumper left behind with a name tag in it and constantly saying "we know
who's doing all this" were apparently powerless or cba to do _anything_
constructive about it other than suggest even bigger, stronger fencing and
more locks FFS. We would, apparently, have had to take civil action to stop
it 'legally', but when we wanted and were prepared to do this the schools
strongly suggested that I shouldn't if I wanted to stay employed at the
schools.

Eventually it got so much, my wife was getting really depressed and even
wanted to move, that we found out who they were, and took some swift
'justice' of our own and strangely all the trouble stopped. Bar none. We
haven't had a single incident in the last month or so since we hit back. We
did nothing too extreme, just knocked a few heads together and quietly
dragged the kids to their parents and told them in no uncertain terms that
if it happens again they'd get worse, far worse, back again. I'm sure we'll
have some retribution in the future, but for now the knock-on effect is that
even the schools aren't getting vandalised either. It seems it really was
only three people doing a shit-load of damage in our village. Everyone knew
them, no-one would do anything about them.

I wish it were true, but unfortunately I believe through experience that
rough justice is the best, simplest and cheapest way of dealing with this
kind of aggro.

Until the scrotes somehow get education, tolerance and respect, they'll
simply continue doing what they want to do to the detriment of all our
lives. If some of that respect has to be beaten into them in a way that
they can understand then I'm all for it ...

 

Old Whore? Ugly, Who're you calling me next?

 

Thus ensuring that the lowest common denominator mindset is
perpetuated.

Phil

 

I was being serious.

TOG flogs an article to the DM, buys son a TY125 or somesuch. Some good
comes out of an otherwise bad thing.

 

If it wasn't for the photo of Maggie on my mantlepiece, it
would have happened to me too.

 

Champ wrote

Bits of it yes, bits of it no. You have to choose your offender
carefully to achieve the right result.

Yes and no. It will result in one of two things. Either: the desired
result of the scrote ceasing her activities in your immediate area or, a
full scale range war. Do the job properly first time round and the
second option doesn't become an issue. Scrotes aren't that silly, face
them with *overwhelming* odds and they will **** off into the sunset and
never be seen again.

 

Hmm, I agree it was not very well put.

I guess what I was alluding to was an assumed respectable young teenager
being mugged by other less respectable teenagers for his mobile phone. But
then I guess back in the 19th century the same could be said for a young
well to do gent being set upon for his pocket watch, so my point was rather,
erm pointless.

Anyway, I blame the gangs of feral, hoody wearing teenage thugs, or
alternatively, Bear.

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M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
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My Dad's best mate Mad George, was a very bad person in another
chapter of his life. And now he's mates with a priest.

 

He's built for comfort, not speed.