MRAA (ie MRAV) bashing

I would agree... our taxation compliance costs have increased several
times over compared to the old sales tax system.

And there should not be suppliers that are not registered for GST (talk
about a pain to process).


G-S

 

Ah, so there's a threshold for something to register in the redneck
psyche, then?

Interesting how that's the only point of mine you choose to address, and
not the one about the harsh French laws failing to prevent the current
civil unrest and bombing campaigns of the past.

How about Russia? How lax must their laws be, and how shy their police,
seeing how regularly Chechens manage to blow up their commuter trains,
and rock concerts and bring down their airlines?

He's also likely to have said "tabouli" in 2003...

So, he read the first two paragraphs of the same newspaper article I
did, did he?

 

MYOB Premier (which we use) cannot accurately calculate our taxation
bill due to deffered and brought forward amounts that cross accounting
periods, which means it has to be calculated by hand and then submitted
via a web interface.

No... but a mix of recipient created tax invoices, suppliers that are
not registered for GST and multiple GST exempt customers make it a pain.


G-S

 

I would not be able to critise various people or groups if I chose to do
so. I would not be free to associate with various people or groups if I
chose to do so. I would not be entitled to a court hearing after being
arrested under certain circumstances (those are just for a start).

Make sense now?


G-S

 

We use Premier. No, we don't have those. The accountant works out the FBT
stuff. We have some deferred taxes but they are on the quarterly statements.

Supplier not registered, no problem, 48.5% hold-back, their problem. GST
excempt customers? No way for us. What or who are they?
Claiming back the excempt Wholesales sales tax was a real PIA for me.

Theo

 

He also invented Daylight Savings Time so Peter Beattie would not want him
in Queensland.

Boxer

 

Actually I dont always follow the party HTV, I am not a great fan of the
Nationals.

Boxer

 

I have a number of clients who live overseas and are not subject to GST, and
some smaller ones who are not registered for GST.

All tax is theft, particularly when with record GST receipts we have a
Health System that is falling apart and depending upon imported unqualified
Doctors.

Boxer

 

Who? Who have you planned to associate with that you won't be able to
associate with?

Once again, who?

Are you planning to be arrested under "certain circumstances"?...

 

Schools, prisons, human services, councils and government departments
(some federal and some state) all have various bits and pieces that are
GST exempt, but it isn't consistent so one cannot set MYOB to a
particular tax code for many of our suppliers and customers.

Claiming back the exempt wholesales sales tax may have been a real PIA
for you.. because that wasn't the way most people used the system.

I put to you that the GST reporting system isn't set up for GST exmempt
stuff in the same way that the WST wasn't for you (and is a similar PIA
for us now).

You didn't mention recipient created tax invoices which we get from some
Government departments (at a time frame that makes life even more
difficult) either *sigh*.


G-S

 

I don't know... that's the point isn't it? The government have said
they won't release names, so how do I (or you) know who were are allowed
or not allowed to associate with?

See above.

That is not my intention... but since I cannot know what is now
'permitted' and what is not then it is possible I may be... without
knowing that what I was doing was actually proscribed.

If I protest something am I now liable to be arrested and detained
without a court hearing? The answer to that seems to be... "well that
depends... but we can't tell you what it depends upon".

What if I (or someone I know) is wrongly arrested... no method now
exists for testing that that arrest is warrented in certain circumstances.

What do you propose people wrongly arrested should do if denied a court
hearing and detained under these new laws?


G-S

 

Use good jugement, if they are strapping bombs to themselves or asking you
to help clean their AK47 perhaps you should select your friends more
carefully.

Boxer

 

And if they are proposing to protest the Commonwealth Games on
motorbikes should I 'select my friends more carefully'? Or how about if
they want to protest the WTO or Pine Gap or Detention Centres?

The point is that there is no longer a defined line... what is ok and
what is not ok is now subject to interpretation by some faceless
individuals who cannot be held responsible for thier actions, and that
is not how supposedly democratic countries behave.

G-S

 

The only sad thing john is you have no comeback and resort to this sort
of crap
be a man will you and don't toe the political line.

 

CDF. Or if you're the sensitive type, common sense.

Do you *really* think you're gunna end up in a situation as a terrorist
suspect without realising it?

You don't preach Jihad do you?

Go to a Mosque with an Imam known for preaching Jihad?

Have a tonne of ammonium nitrate in your garage?

Have 600 pages of printouts from www.howtomakeabomb.com?

All of the above?

I can't believe you seriously think that the government is gunna use
these powers to silence any and all dissent.

"Moonbats are thick tonight, eh Roy?..."

 

Don't ride next to the guys with "Allahu Akbar" stickers on their bike.

Maybe they could spend their time actually *doing* something
constructive regarding their grievances rather than just getting
arrested again after breaking down a fence or two.

Nothing is absolute. Uncertain times require uncertain measures.

 

Damned right! There's been too MANY faded curtains.

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'87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
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And exactly WHAT constructive do you propose they should do Doug ?

Times have always been uncertain, kids have never respected their
parents, governments have always sought to increase their power over the
population.

These things are older than Western civilisation (as is the "there's an
external threat so you'd better do what I say" tactic), and Western
civilisation evolved a uniquely powerful and robust way of dealing with
that in the last few hundred years. This is something that is however
being constantly attempted to be remove by people who want more power
and more control of the population.

JL

 

Not all Muslims are terrorists, nor are all terrorists Muslims. The fact
you think it's that simple is very telling.

Maybe this government won't, but how do you know the next government
won't choose to use some laws that are already on the books, and if
they're already in power with a senate majority, then what are you going
to do if it's you they're targetting ? You understand the concept of
double edged swords ?

Well there's certainly someone thick around here.

JL

 

hammo have u been told?