MRAA (ie MRAV) bashing

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Minx, Oct 19, 2005.

  1. Minx

    CrazyCam Guest

    JL wrote:

    Everyone gets a number....if your number is drawn you get a chance to
    prove you are a lawyer, and get immediatelly excused, then you get a
    chance to prove you aren't a member of a political party, if you pass
    that you're in, if you fail, you are shot.

    Yeah, I reckon it could work.

    It would be cheaper just to annoint Zebee as the benevolent dictator.

    After all, how many motorcycles could she want?

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Nov 9, 2005
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  2. Minx

    JL Guest

    Well it's different around here then, the only people who don't try and
    duck it are those with nothing better to do (pensioners, public servants
    etc). Those with jobs do try and avoid it. I suspect the "you're going
    to be paid $100 a day" or what ever it is a bit of a disincentive to
    those who own their own business or aren't able to get indefinite paid
    leave (ie anyone with a real job)

    JL
     
    JL, Nov 9, 2005
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  3. Minx

    JL Guest

    <ponders> Yeah OK.

    You going to organise the army coup or am I ?

    JL
    Mad Biker you can sort out the coppers
     
    JL, Nov 9, 2005
  4. Minx

    Boxer Guest

    Why are you so ashamed of your Union and Labor party membership?

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Nov 9, 2005
  5. Minx

    Boxer Guest

    The proposed IR changes do not affect me personally so I have not read the
    500 page document but decided to attend the Labor parties meeting to hear
    the other side of the storey, unfortunately I did not gain any real facts
    from the meeting.

    I think theire scope to simplify Industrial Relations in this country and
    would support a reduction in the number of jurisdictions and legislation.

    My observation on the IR issue was a factual observation about the number of
    attendees at a meeting, and my opinion that people in my area did not appear
    to be very interested in the subject based upon that factual observation.

    This observation is supported by the small number of calls being received by
    Federal Members in South East Queensland on the subject.

    I can understand that you are upset by the proposed laws, many Union Reps
    are.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Nov 9, 2005
  6. Minx

    Boxer Guest

    Being a professional service provider I find that the GST has increased by
    compliance workload considerably and my accounting bills have increased by
    $4,500 per year. Having regard to the time lost and increased costs of
    compliance I consider that the GST has cost me in the order of $10,000 per
    year to collect taxes.

    Good concept but in my view it should be on everything (including food) and
    we should not be paying State Government Stamp Duty and other state Taxes
    and Charges that were supposed to be withdrawn at the time.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Nov 9, 2005
  7. Minx

    Nev.. Guest

    I can understand the self employed people's case, but i believe the law
    required employers to give employees leave to attend jury service... and
    as far as indefinite leave goes, jury duty isn't indefinite... the
    summons states the days for which you will be required to attend, and I
    think jurors have the option of not making themselves available for
    cases which are likely to go on for longer than a week or so if it will
    cause hardship (self employed or work for a small company).

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Nov 9, 2005
  8. Minx

    Boxer Guest

    If I were selected for an extended trial at the $160 a day I would be broke
    within 2 weeks.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Nov 9, 2005
  9. Minx

    Smee R1100s Guest

    Because as I have stated before I am neither.
    I have nothing to be ashamed about I speak my own views not the views of
    an orchestrated campaign.
    I am my own mouthpiece not somneone elses.

    You are the lapdog to your party.
     
    Smee R1100s, Nov 9, 2005
  10. Minx

    Smee R1100s Guest

    I am not in any union.
     
    Smee R1100s, Nov 9, 2005
  11. Minx

    Gary Woodman Guest

    Too clever by half. Pity he's not on the Americans' side any more, they need
    all the help they can get.

    Gary (not counting the rodent, Phil the Cadaver, 'Ducky' Downer, and 'Dung'
    Hill)
     
    Gary Woodman, Nov 9, 2005
  12. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:16:59 +1100
    It's not how many *I* want.

    It's how many I think other people need....

    Zebee
    - figuring there are worse ways to bankrupt a state!
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 9, 2005
  13. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:01:20 +1100
    "It doesn't take much brain to work it out.
    An undercover exercise that went right up the spout!
    Someone had to wear it, and they said it looks like Tim,
    The papers helped prepare it, and they laid the blame on him."
    - Roaring Jack "Framed"


    Zebee
    - who thinks any case that has the guy who was Prime Minister at the
    time pointing out the holes in it has big holes...
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 9, 2005
  14. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:20:15 +1100
    My employer has a jury leave policy. Full time off with pay.

    I was pinged for jury service to start the day after I started said job.
    They were fine with it, I was packing death! Luckily after 3
    postponements I was told I was off the pool for another 3 years.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 9, 2005
  15. Minx

    JL Guest

    Yup, unpaid leave in the private sector (public sector will do it on
    full pay I believe). Dunno about you but I'm not too keen on sitting on
    a jury for a couple of weeks to a couple of months for an amount about
    equal to the dole.
    Umm I'm no expert but how can they possibly determine how long you will
    have to attend for ? I think you'll find the summons states when you are
    supposed to front up and be available to be selected for jury duty. If
    you're not excluded then you're on the jury for the time it takes to
    complete the case.
    True IIANM, but that's about hardship to the employer, you don't get to
    say "I work for Giant Corp P/L and while they can probably do without me
    for the 3 months this trial is going to take, I can't afford to drop a
    quarter of a year's income so I'd like to be excused please".

    JL
    (I'd be happy to be corrected that employers are only required to give
    unpaid leave, would make me feel a lot less nervous about getting called
    up for it)
     
    JL, Nov 9, 2005
  16. Minx

    JL Guest

    Woohoo - now there's a political platform I'd vote for !

    Free motorbikes for everyone !

    JL
    (no child will be living without a PeeWee50 by the year 2010 ?)
     
    JL, Nov 9, 2005
  17. Minx

    Nev.. Guest

    I think the law also required employers to pay their employees while
    they were on jury service (the difference between the jury stipend and
    their base salary that is). My employer pays base salary during jury
    service and lets employees keep their jury payments as well.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Nov 9, 2005
  18. Minx

    JL Guest

    I guess you had to be there to know all that. I'd heard of it (and had a
    vague inkling there was something sus about it all), but being in
    primary school I was more interested in riding my bike at that time..

    JL
    (come to think of it, not much has changed)
     
    JL, Nov 9, 2005
  19. Minx

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Moe-ke?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 9, 2005
  20. Minx

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Is this a Liberal Party in-joke or sumting?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 9, 2005
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