Motorway driving in the fog

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mo, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. Mo

    Lozzo Guest

    DR says...
    You mean somewhere near Dungeness?

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    Lozzo, Oct 12, 2007
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  2. On a related note, I do think they should put any nuclear waste dump under
    the Houses of Parliament. It might not be the safest place for it but you
    can guarantee that there will always be enough money in the budget keep a
    close eye on it.
     
    David Johnston, Oct 12, 2007
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  3. Mo

    DR Guest

    That's tried and tested; I mean the experimental stuff, the one that
    went pop, and all the other messy things they've got up here.
     
    DR, Oct 12, 2007
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  4. Mo

    DR Guest

    No, the farmers took care of that with their F&M compo.
     
    DR, Oct 12, 2007
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  5. Mo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:13:38 +0100, DR

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    Like right next door to Dungeness A and Dungeness B perhaps?

    Perhaps they might have built it somewhere closer like Aldermaston
    instead?

    Sorry Darren but your point on this one isn't quite hitting the spot.
    Let's try asking about the contaminated land in Cumbria that the
    farmers still can't use and the majority of the country don't even
    know about.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 12, 2007
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  6. Mo

    Fr Jack Guest

    Sounds like a perfect spot to keep the politicians....
     
    Fr Jack, Oct 12, 2007
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  7. Mo

    DR Guest

    How much of that is due to Windscale, and how much is due to
    Chernobyl? Am I likely to get black helicopters overhead just for
    asking? Again, it's far enough from London to be ignored and
    forgotten.
     
    DR, Oct 12, 2007
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  8. Mo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    My understanding is that the area is still contaminated by both
    incidents but it's only minor stuff. I suppose a google for the half
    life of plutonium whatever the number was would give an answer.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 13, 2007
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  9. Mo

    DR Guest

    I referred to Calder Hall for a reason.
     
    DR, Oct 13, 2007
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  10. A quarter of a million years, or thereabouts. A rather long time to
    have the most poisonous substance know to man spread about the planet
    with gay abandon by any standards.
     
    steve auvache, Oct 13, 2007
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  11. Heh, nice comeback on that topic.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Oct 13, 2007
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  12. Mo

    Pip Guest

    <rolls eyes>
     
    Pip, Oct 13, 2007
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  13. Mo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Thank **** it isn't spread about down here then.

    For something that happened 50 years ago this week it's hardly been
    mentioned by the media. I suppose that's partly because the place was
    built to produce plutonium for weapons and it'd be disloyal to
    complain if a few northerners got nuked along the way.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 13, 2007
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  14. There is also the matter of changing the name every couple of years to
    help obfuscate the truth. When you bear in mind that the media are in
    the main young, brash, full of themselves thank you very much granddad
    and with a memory that even when sober only goes back a very short time
    then the simple act of changing the name a few times effective removes
    it from public record.

    Then again they want us to embrace new clear power so that we can live
    as a merkin lives and still have a planet to live on, don't forget it is
    in their interests to play it down for that reason as well.

    Conspiracy of silence? I can't hear a thing mate, don't know what you
    are talking about.
     
    steve auvache, Oct 13, 2007
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  15. Mo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    They've only changed the name of the site once but it does seem that
    if there's a problem then the different parts of the plant are
    referred to by their specific name rather than as Sellafield.

    If you want to dispute that then consider that Thorp, Magnox and
    Calder Hall are all part of Sellafield. These are the most widely
    known names but there are several others that crop up from time to
    time when things go a bit astray.

    My company has a full site map on one of our office walls because
    we've got customers there but I try to avoid going and so far have
    been 100& successful in my efforts. It really isn't a nice place to
    work.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 13, 2007
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  16. Mo

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Except that Magnox, as I am sure you know, is a the name for a type of
    reactor used at more than one nuclear power station.


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    Pete Fisher, Oct 13, 2007
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  17. Mo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    So the Magnox reprocessing plant at Sellafield is actually a reactor
    and not a plant reprocessing fuel from Magnox reactors elsewhere?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 14, 2007
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  18. Mo

    Pete Fisher Guest


    I see. You mean the B205 plant. Still two Magnox reactors just about
    operational still elsewhere aren't there?

    OK, so 'Magnox' in a Sellafield context now means the "B205 Magnox
    reprocessing plant" since the reactors at Calder Hall were closed down.
    Is there anything left of those? I see the cooling towers only came down
    recently.

    How about we code name it "Northmoor" [1] to avoid any possible
    confusion?

    [1] Not strictly fair, but I am sure some will recognise the reference.

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    Pete Fisher, Oct 14, 2007
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  19. Mo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    B205 is the plant number for that particular reprocessing plant. I've
    spoken to site engineers involved in that plant and they refer to it
    as Magnox, maybe it's a local thing?
    If you were to go to Sellafield and ask for the Magnox plant you'd be
    sent to the reprocessing plant, not Calder Hall. As far as I know it's
    always been like that. It works in the same way when you ask for the
    Thorp plant if that's where you want to go.
    I'm sure you think I was taking the piss with my earlier post but
    Calder Hall has never been referred to as Magnox whereas the
    reprocessing plant has.

    I originally stated that Calder Hall, Magnox and Thorp were all parts
    of Sellafield and that's exactly what they are. There wasn't any
    hidden agenda in using those parts of the complex as examples, they're
    the ones that I know best because past and present employers of mine
    have worked there.
    Not me.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 14, 2007
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  20. Mo

    Pete Fisher Guest


    I never read any hidden agenda in to your comments. I plead simple
    ignorance and the 'Cotes du Rhone defence' for last night's post. To my
    mind Magnox didn't seem specific enough a term. A quick google confirms
    that, as you say, it has a particular meaning so far as Sellafield is
    concerned.
    The name of the fictional nuclear storage facility, featuring a hot cell
    for plutonium reprocessing, in the BBC's series "Edge of Darkness".
    http://fabulousbakers.tripod.com/edge/notes2.html
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    Pete Fisher, Oct 14, 2007
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