Motorway Closures

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nigel Eaton, Jun 10, 2004.

  1. Babba wrote:

    Used to be? Still is. Even if you get convicted the fine will be less
    than hiring a hitman.
     
    Cardinal Fang, Jun 11, 2004
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  2. Nigel Eaton

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I doubt, somehow, that if it had been a civilian they'd be quite so
    thorough.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 11, 2004
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  3. Nigel Eaton

    K Olley Guest

    It does not have to be one of their own, all it needs to set the full
    investigation in motion is for injuries assessed at the scene to be
    classed as potentially fatal.


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    Kevin - Basildon
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    K Olley, Jun 12, 2004
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  4. Nigel Eaton

    K Olley Guest

    They are, at least they are within Essex, I have seen and have been
    given copies of one of these reports.


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    Kevin - Basildon
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    K Olley, Jun 12, 2004
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  5. Nigel Eaton

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I don't recall a road being closed for 18 hours for a normal person.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 12, 2004
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    ozmick, Jun 12, 2004
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  7. Nigel Eaton

    K Olley Guest

    It can be quite a long while at times, sometimes even several days,
    although most of the very long ones usually have other factors that
    cause it.

    It would be dependent on how much had to be investigated, and maybe
    also how busy the accident investigation staff were when the call come
    in,

    Time of day can also be a factor, if they had good diversions in place
    etc and traffic levels were low or dropping they would not be under so
    much pressure to re-open the road.


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    Kevin - Basildon
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    K Olley, Jun 12, 2004
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  8. Nigel Eaton

    deadmail Guest

    Not that this follows on from Simian's point, but it's a convenient
    place to jump in. 12 hours, 18 hours, whatever... I don't think
    anyone's life is worth a motorway being closed for 6 hours during its
    peak use time. I dread to think how much that cost the country.
     
    deadmail, Jun 12, 2004
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  9. Nigel Eaton

    deadmail Guest

    Well, I think the argument made (IIRC) by JP was that isn't it worth it
    for the grieving relatives to understand what went wrong.

    I doubt that in most case it's a dangerous murdering criminal, probably
    someone fell asleep or lost attention.
    Quite. They need an economy that functions. Pull the wreckage out the
    carriageway. Mop up the blood and open the fucking road.
     
    deadmail, Jun 12, 2004
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  10. Nigel Eaton

    K Olley Guest

    Good idea.

    If an accident was a lot less of an inconvienence then some of us
    might take a lot less effort trying to avoid them.

    <must order new RSJ (front bumper) for artic>


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    Kevin - Basildon
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    K Olley, Jun 12, 2004
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  11. Nigel Eaton

    deadmail Guest

    Well, since the closing of a motorway doesn't inconvenience the people
    that had the accident I don't understand the point you're trying to
    make.

    Could you make it a little more clearly?
     
    deadmail, Jun 12, 2004
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  12. Nigel Eaton

    K Olley Guest

    Time, any delay in time is an inconvienence to a commercial driver.

    A minor accident can cost you hours, not only at the scene but also
    all the paperwork and at times court appearances as well.

    A more serious accident can cost even more time and can sometimes go
    on for years.

    You get all this whether you were at fault or not, one that involved a
    vehicle that I was in charge of went on for about 3 years, and I was
    parked and not even in the vehicle when it happened.

    Driving commercially its not a case of who was at fault, but more a
    case of we know he was at fault but you should have anticipated and
    avoided him anyway, too many not at fault incidents and you will be
    shown the door.

    The down side of this is that some prats know that you will try to
    avoid an accident if possible so they do do stupid and dangerous
    things right under your wheels and they most of the time get away with
    it, it too expensive to hit them.


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    Kevin - Basildon
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    K Olley, Jun 12, 2004
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  13. Nigel Eaton

    Ben Blaney Guest

    You're usually quite precise, old boy, but you appear to have
    overlooked the fact that 12 hours isn't 18 hours.
    No, I'm saying that the police are extra meticulous, and exact, and
    determined to bring the offender to justice when it's one of their own
    who's been injured or killed. Which is fine - I have no argument with
    that. Except that they don't extend the same courtesy to "normal"
    people.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 13, 2004
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