more wireless fun : A nerd question.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Yeebok, May 23, 2007.

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    Yeebok Guest

    Well it's not solely wireless it does it with my old modem, 2 PCs and
    any combinations of those and USB/LAN/wireless conection, XP and Vista,
    3 firewalls, 3 different antivirus programs (all tried individually not
    together), Outlook and Thunderbird.
    I can download, upload, browse, FTP and receive any and all forms of
    email. I just can't *send* mails that are more than 1 or 2Kb - this
    message is about as long as it can get. No attachments, nothing - it
    just times out. My ISP says nothing's wrong with my settings but
    something's screwed up.

    Anyone?
     
    Yeebok, May 23, 2007
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  2. change your MTU, all I can think could do it. You will need to google for the program to changeit its something like setmtu.

    cya, Andrew...
     
    Andrew McMeikan, May 23, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Who's Reggy, and what makes you think he didit?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, May 24, 2007
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    Big Bird Guest

    plug your PC directly into your internet link (bypass all firewalls,
    routers etc) and see if you can send large emails. If you cant, then its
    your PC. If you can, then its your network.
     
    Big Bird, May 24, 2007
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    JL Guest

    Try turning off your antivirus and firewall programs temporarily -
    some of them are set up to block outgoing traffic on port 25

    Do you have a local smtp server or are you using your ISP's ?

    JL
     
    JL, May 24, 2007
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    Yeebok Guest

    Excellent. So since I can't with no firewall and directly connected to
    either of my 2 modems .. where's the problem ? Outlook AND Thunderbird
    have the same problem no matter how I do it.
    The old PC that worked at the old address does it here too with the same
    settings it used before.

    MTU is set at 1492. I have also tried 1400, 2000, 1000, 750 and 500.
    Same end result, all works barring sending mails.
     
    Yeebok, May 24, 2007
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    Yeebok Guest

    Using my ISPs - however the problem occurs when sending to their SMTP or
    NNTP server only. Receiving from same is hunky dory. I've tried
    without any firewall or antivirus at all on XPSP1, XPSP2 and Vista,
    using my DLink or Netcomm modem. Also if that were the problem, I'd be
    able to send no mails, rather than ones under 2K. (which is why I tried
    the MTUs). Could not send this without deleting all that you quoted.
     
    Yeebok, May 24, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Never let a chance go by!!
     
    Knobdoodle, May 24, 2007
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  9. What Big Bird wanted you to do was bypass your router but by the sounds
    of it at least one of your modems *is* a router, so may be you can't. Is
    the other one a router-modem too?

    " The old PC that worked at the old address ... ": you've physically
    moved but stayed with the same ISP? Or you've changed ISP? Or you've
    changed static IP for some reason?

    MTU: 1492 is fine. Anything less should make no difference, unless
    you're trying to communicate with somewhere with really ancient switches
    (Boratstan may be?). In theory setting it to anything higher than 1500
    might *create* your problem, but if it did it should affect FTP and HTTP
    also.

    Do you know anyone else with the same ISP so you can test your gear
    (preferably the old gear that did work) at their place?
     
    Andrew McKenna, May 24, 2007
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    Yeebok Guest

    Nope. correct port <default>

     
    Yeebok, May 24, 2007
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    Yeebok Guest

    I physically moved and remained with the same ISP and account. About a
    week after moving the old account was connected at the new address.
    The Netcomm is also a router but just 2 devices rather than 4. Both've
    been reset to defaults and configured using the ISP's CD and firmware's
    all up to date. I've also configured both manually.
     
    Yeebok, May 24, 2007
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  12. You say you can FTP with no problems; does that mean you can upload large
    files also, or only download?

    Have you checked both computers for malware of any sort? Not talking viruses
    here; malware's an entirely different kettle o' fish.

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    Bob Milutinovic, May 24, 2007
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    Peter Guest

    Is there an alarm system at this new address?

    :p
     
    Peter, May 24, 2007
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  14. OK, so since they're both routers, we can't use packet sniffing software
    to try and find out *where* the packets are being dropped. That might
    not have worked anyway.

    1. Confirm the problem is not specific to the telephone extension socket
    you're using by plugging the last good configuration into another socket
    and trying again.
    2. Confirm the problem is specific to SMTP/NNTP as Bob Milutinovic has
    suggested by uploading stuff via HTTP and FTP.

    If you can't upload anything it may be a wiring problem beyond your
    modem but if it's peculiar to SMTP/NNTP it's more likely to be
    configuration.
     
    Andrew McKenna, May 25, 2007
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    JL Guest

    Get a GMail account or other free account that you can send smtp
    traffic to.

    That will eliminate one step (the ISP), if upload to Gmail from your
    box works then it's something the ISP has done.

    If it doesn't, then you need to look to your end as more likely (it's
    not impossible they could be blocking or limiting the traffic, but if
    you can't successfully upload smtp to another server other than
    theirs, it's probably not them.)

    Most likely scenario is a virus or malware of some sort - could be a
    program running in the background or a registry setting has been
    changed.

    BTW you SHOULD be running a local firewall and virus protection you
    should NOT be relying on your ISP for this. You also want a copy of
    spybot sd and ad aware to clean your box up if

    Might want to have a dig on tucows or download.com for a network
    analysis tool - there's probably something on there that can give you
    an idea of what's happening to your smtp traffic. I wouldn't bother
    until you've eliminated virus and mal/spyware though

    JL
     
    JL, May 25, 2007
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    Yeebok Guest

    Yes my wife goes off every time I touch the computer ;)

    No, no alarms at all.

    I'll have a fiddle and stop off topicing and see what I come up with.
    I've had a computer since C64s were around so it's not often lately that
    I get stuff that completely stumps me, as much due to experience as
    anything. A number of good suggestions you've all made weren't things
    I'd thought of trying.
     
    Yeebok, May 25, 2007
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    Aido Guest

    Is it possable that the firmware in one or both your routers is
    corrupted? Upsetting a setting somewhere. Even though your settings look
    right, I beleive this could cause all types of problems.

    Aido. :)>
     
    Aido, May 26, 2007
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    Peter Guest

    Did you fix the problem?
    What was it?
    :p
     
    Peter, May 28, 2007
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