More Privacy Invaded

"Morgan Kane"

Come on Morgan, lol, cut Brian a little slack, lol. You should have known
it would only be a matter of time before he'd have to change the issue
around, in order to have his argument make sence, lol. What he doesn't
realize is that everyone read his original post the same way, and
interpreted it exactly as he wrote it. Now, that he's had a chance to
evaluate how stupid he sounded, his only recorse is to 'change the issue' to
suit his present argument. The only one he's fooling is himself, oh, and
maybe his dad, lol.

Vic (48723)

 

‘‘P.S. I bought gas at the local Diamond Shamrock, today. I paid
cash money, and I spoke to the cashier using a fake middle east accent.
I used small, crumpled bills, and I wore gloves. I parked my car so that
the dealer couldn't even see the muddied plate!’’ (jesse#88, not my
real name)!

‘‘Say Jesse#88 no AKA known, this thread topic is about 4 days
old, and I believe you are the only one that has actually learned
something.
Are'nt you glad you stumbled in here and on this post topic, just think
how it has helped you, I bet before this topic was submitted here on the
group, you went places and didnt' worry about stuff, now look at cha. I
bet your own wife and kids don't recognize ya anymore, rectum. Now you
take me, I don't have anything that the government would be interested
in, like you. I just merely pay cash at the store, sack my shit, and get
in my trucking cage, go on home. I have such a simple redneck life.heh
heh.’’ (grin,Bjay)!

 

‘‘No one's getting my personal information from me, by golly.
Jesse '88 (not my real name... or is it?)’’


‘‘I'll be giving out my real name to all:
John Doe
111 Main Street, Everytown USA.

(Wakko   NTXNS TOMKAT SENSitive)

‘‘Wakko, I'll reveal mine, since you werent afraid to give out
yours.
here ya go, zip and all):
I.P.Freely, 999 Comode Central,
UpStream,Arkansas 54321 (BJAY)!

 

Yes, I was aware of the victims right to sue. And, on act-
ually, I guess a fine assessed against such a violator, is in
fact, a suit. I just don't quite understand how the state or
feds are due compensation based on a violation against
a private citizen.

Of course, it happens all the time. One may live in a state
where automobile insurance is mandatory. That same
individual may be hit by another driver without the obliga-
tory insurance. The uninsured driver may be ticketed or
jailed, only to eventually pay a fine/vehicle seizure fee.
But, that really doesn't aid the victim of the collision.

Therefore, we all have to load up on (un)(under)insured
driver protection. Seems to me if the violation occurs,
the resultant fine/levi/bail/cost should be used to comp-
ensate the victim(s).

 

Thanks for the link.

Today, I called in sick at my job, and instead went down to the local
7-11 where the illegal immigrant Mexicans hang out, hoping that a local
contractor will hire them for cash under the table. I managed to get a
day job SUPERVISING a crew hanging drywall because I was the only one
there who spoke english. I got paid in cash at the end of the day, no
social security withholding, no W-4 forms, no taxes, no medicaid, no
questions asked. If I can do this regularly, I will be able to quit
my regular job.

When I got home, I bought a copy of my credit report, and wrote letters
to each creditor, closing all my revolving accounts. Luckily, I'm a
renter, so I don't have a mortgage to worry about. When my lease is
up in January, I am going to try renting a room in a private home
(there is a bulletin board at the library with such listings offered)
so that I don't have my name on a lease and have no official address.

Well, I have to go. The guy who let me use his laptop for $5 and a
latte here at Starbucks is ready to leave, so I have to post this and
log off. Don't ask which Starbucks. I'm not wearing my disguise
tonight, it itches too much.

Brian '74

 

BJayKana wrote:

Wife? Kids?


Brian '74

 

I don't have a zip code, just a library address, which I don't give out
to anyone, "Brian Walker." (As if that's your real name!)

Dave '66

 

And who would actually use the surname of "Walker"....especially in Texas,
where it's practically a synonym for both "lying shitstain" and
"troglodyte".

I must be a crazy mo-fo:

Sean McKeagan
642 Overlook Dr
St. Petersburg, FL

Zip-code withheld for fear of identity theft! Bwahahahahahaha

 

Brian, I don't think you understand. You are not being critisized for your
stand on ''identity theft'. You are being critisized on your lack of
understanding for a need of some kind of Credit Card ID verification. Plain
and simple. Anyone who would have to take the word of a 'pimply faced kid',
working at a gas station, as there only sourse of reason for the Zip Code
requirement, is just plain acting stupid. You were called on it, and instead
of acknowledgeing the need, got off on your little ID theft tangent, lol.

Again, the fact that you need them to "explain to me what they plan on
using that information for", is the reason your catching all the bullshit.
What you don't realize, or won't acknowlede, is that the responces you are
receiving, are doing just exactly what you were asking for, an explaination!
Instead of excepting them, or at least disagreeing with them some sensible
argument, you're back-peddleing with your little 'ID theft' seneros. That's
what's making you look so stupid Brian.

I'm quite happy with how stupid I look in this arguement Brian, lol. It's
you that seems to be the 'unhappy camper' this time around, lol. I mean
after, all I didn't need some pimply faced kid, working at a gas station, to
tell me all I know about Credit Card ID verification, lol

Have a nice day,

Vic

 

Where did I say there is "nothing" to worry about?
Where did I ever say I don't have concerns of gathering of private data?
Where did I say I wanted a discussion of privacy and annoying telemarketing in general?

OK, I am going to spell it out one more time:

The credit card company ALREADY HAS YOUR ENTIRE HOME ADDRESS (and quite a bit more).
If they are going to sell you out to email marketers, telemarketers, mass mail marketers,
they can do that already.

By you providing a zip code to someone WHO ALREADY HAS IT, it does not erode your
privacy any further, nor open you up to unwanted solicitation any more than you now.

Bruce

 

Choosing an expert for advice is important. I use the guy who sells hotlinks
outside of Homedepot.

.....louie

 

LOL again... good observation m.Kane, numerous times I believe the crawlers
have called upon posters using anonymous ids to not be afraid and post their
real info.

 

I've got de-caf coffee all over my monitor, lol. Post a warning next
time, ok?

Regards,

Vic

 

<evil grin> Seems kind of silly for a big talking fat boy to pop off on
usenet when the one he's been talking about is on the spot, huh ? Anyone
want to take a wild shot who did that. ? btw.. I didn't really think much
of your beer joint, either ? Kinda got quiet and empty when I showed up,
asking for you.. <chuckle>

Bill Walker
Irving

 

<chuckle> Take a deep breath, sonny.. Like I said, you've got nothing to
worry about... whoops.. better get that phone that's ringing, it might be a
phone call.. lol

Bill Walker
Irving

 

From this site (http://www.wiscocomputing.com/articles/ccfraud.htm)
Under ADDRESS VERIFICATION SYSTEM (AVS):
---------------------------------
Once a fraudster has a legitimate customer name and the stolen credit card
number, they can use the Internet to look up their victim's telephone
number, address, and zip code. This allows a software purchase to pass AVS,
and the fraudster can download the software before the fraud is reported.
With orders that are shipped, the thief can provide the correct billing
address for AVS approval, but request a different ship to address.

 

I'm certainly not looking out for any CC company, but....

It' kinda' hard to relay the exact address related to you,
because the cards are issued from so many institutions.

Additionally, I seem to recall in your initial posting, that
your card was a Visa. Maybe, that's incorrect, but I'm
not retrieving the full thread just to see.

But, in Texas(where you are), is a Mastercard internat-
ional LLC, licensed with the state. The details follow.
Perhaps, you can write to one of these officers to get
the answers to your questions. Alternatively, maybe
you could provide your CC's issuing institution, and
I'll provide that information.


Thanks,

Gary

p.s. I wouldn't think you could go wrong with writing to
an address on Mastercard Blvd. <G>

p.p.s. Some times, these corporate records are not fully
accurate with regard to address. Sensing that this address might fall into
this category, I've included a Yahoo gps route link from LBJ & Central to
verify the address at least exists. Of course, that's still not a positive
guarantee that these individuals are located there:
http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?new...s&country=us&tcsz=63366&tcountry=us&terr=3011



ASSISTANT BRUCE A SAVID
2000 PURCHASE ST
PURCHASE , NY 10577

SECRETARY CRAIG INGRAHAM
2200 MASTERCARD BLVD
O'FALLON , MO 63366

PRESIDENT JERRY MCELHATTON
2200 MASTERCARD BLVD
O'FALLON , MO 63366

 

Of course they do Brian. Think about it a second, if something as simple as
requireing a Zip Code to verify card ownership has stifled and confussed at
least one 'semi-intellegent' card holder from accessing his account, lol.
Think what it will do to all those 'really dumb' Credit Card thiefs, lol.

Ummm... You're not trying to tell us that you need directions to get to
your own bank, are you? Look in the Yellow Pages under 'banks'. Yours is
bound to be there some place. Once in a while they'll even supply a map
along with the Zip Code too, lol. Good luck!!

Vic

 

I can give you their addresses. I'll need to know your zip code first,
please.

 

I may be news to you, but the bank issuing the card just may not be HIS
bank.. It may not even be in Texas.. The bank isn't at issue, the computer
at the gas station is.. Every card in my wallet must have a PIN number for
it to be accessed.. The PIN is anonymous to any other identification that I
own.. ZIP codes have never been any recognized source of identification.

Even my gas cards have a PIN number for access.. because they all have a
limited cash reserve should I ever need it.. The Diamond Shamrock in my area
hasn't rquired anything from me other than that information that is being
scanned.. Most of the Diamond Shamrock stations are franchised owned .. Many
of those franchise owners are at liberty to make available to outside
sources, such information that might not be in the best interests of the
customer.. Many of the employees of that franchisee have no idea what the
owner is doing in that regard..

If you are comfortable divulging whatever information that is being asked,
by all means .. do so.. Don't be so quick to criticize someone who isn't
that comfortable about it..

Bill Walker