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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by CT, May 9, 2011.

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    Ben Guest

    Ben, May 10, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    ginge, May 10, 2011
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    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    You won't get it, legally. IIRC the limit is 200 W (think it was
    250 W at one point). In some places it can only be electrically-assisted
    (i.e. you have to put in some pedal-power yourself) but last I saw that
    hadn't become a requirement in the UK.

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    Ivan D. Reid, May 10, 2011
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    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    You won't get it, legally. IIRC the limit is 200 W (think it was
    250 W at one point). In some places it can only be electrically-assisted
    (i.e. you have to put in some pedal-power yourself) but last I saw that
    hadn't become a requirement in the UK.

    --
    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Ivan D. Reid, May 10, 2011
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    Hog. Guest

    Well obviously I'm completely ignoring any legal issues. They can go and FRO
    with the utterly dumb **** pedelec and 200w regs. What complete fuckwit
    dreamed all that shite up anyway?
     
    Hog., May 10, 2011
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  6. Some EU ****.
    I'm happy wiv my 750W hub.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 10, 2011
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    Ivan D. Reid Guest

    On Tue, 10 May 2011 20:02:48 +0000 (UTC), Ivan D. Reid
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    wrote in <>:

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    Bloody news server...

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    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Ivan D. Reid, May 11, 2011
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    Hog. Guest

    What do you think it takes to heave up a 20% 1 mile climb without pedals,
    motor wise?
    What kind of motor are you using?
     
    Hog., May 11, 2011
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    Stephen Guest

    I don't think you're in a good position to make this sort of judgement.
     
    Stephen, May 11, 2011
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    Steve R Guest

    If my math is right ( don't count on it ) for a 1 in 5 slope (20%), the
    power needed is :

    Power (W) = Speed (mph) x Mass (Kg) x 0.855

    not counting friction or air resistance
     
    Steve R, May 11, 2011
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    Hog. Guest

    On the contrary Senor
     
    Hog., May 11, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Well clearly it's not. You've only got one of it, for a start.
     
    Ace, May 11, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    Would you say "if my maths are right" ?
     
    Jim, May 11, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Yeah, probably, mebbe, not sure. Doesn't clearly sound wrong. But
    that's not the point.
     
    Ace, May 11, 2011
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    No. "Maths" is simply shorthand for his knowledge of mathematics, or
    his ability to handle mathematics, both of which are singular nouns.
     
    Colin Irvine, May 11, 2011
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  16. Dunno, as there's no mile-long hill on any route I use. From what I see,
    even a 250/350W motor will do that on the right bike/rider, as many of
    the quoted power outputs don't take into account peak power - a little
    bit of deliberate misleading by makers, in order to keep legal. Peak
    power on many of the smaller hubs will reach 500 or 600W.
    Asking at pedelecs uk or endless-sphere will get you a more accurate
    response, but pedelecs uk tends to be inhabited by tut-tutting arseholes
    who bang on about 'cowboy' illegal rigs. Not all of them, of course.
    A conhismotor 750W hub.
    http://www.conhismotor.com/ProductShow.asp?id=89
    I bought the complete kit, with everything but the batteries - hub built
    in wheel, controller, throttle, pedelec sensor, battery bag, etc. I
    wasn't too impressed with the wheel build and if I was doing it again,
    I'd buy just the bare hub and get a wheel built locally.
    Total cost was only a couple of hundred dollah, but p&p and duty nearly
    doubled it.
    For batteries, I've gone for Bosch fatpack powertool lithiums, which
    don't have the distressing habit of catching fire or exploding if
    they're accidentally over or under-charged.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 13, 2011
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    Hog. Guest

    This sort of thing?
    www.batterytrader.com/bosch-gsr18vli-gsr18ve2li-28ah-fatpack-replacement-batteries-p-35149.html
     
    Hog., May 13, 2011
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    Hog. Guest

    Perhaps all I need to do is fit a set of decent damped forks? I assume
    that's easy enough. What sort of thig would one go for?
     
    Hog., May 13, 2011
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  19. The price of the 3Ah ones is silly, so I was looking at th 2.2Ah
    instead, much more cost-effective.
    http://www.a1-battery.co.uk/POWER_TOOLS_BATTERY/BOSCH/TBS043.htm

    In the end, I went for NOS genuine Bosch 2.6aH for about the same price.
    I currently have four for >10Ah, and will either add two more to the
    pack or make another >10Ah pack for reserve, but using the alternative
    ones above. I'm not certain exactly what cells are used in the 50quid
    ones, so didn't take the risk for the first pack, but if they're totally
    compatible with a Bosch charger(as they should be), the chemistry is
    probably the same.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 13, 2011
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    Ben Guest

    I wouldn't bother. As other have said, and from my personal
    experience, suspension is a bonus off-road, but little use on-road.

    To get something light enough and performant enough that they would be
    any sort of help, you'd end up spending more than your bike cost.

    You also have 700c wheels, rather than 26in MTB ones which limits
    choice substantially to what are know as 29er fit forks. These are a
    niche market and aimed fully at the enthusiast MTB riders. So cost
    accordingly.
     
    Ben, May 13, 2011
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