More economical driving and riding

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Mar 9, 2011.

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    ogden Guest

    You're making jokes about handbags. **** off.
     
    ogden, Mar 11, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    131.9 at my usual garage, but the legendary Total in Southfields is
    already charging 139.9 for regular unleaded. The cheeky cunts.
     
    ogden, Mar 11, 2011
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    CT Guest

    heh

    I was expecting "the darsy retort".
     
    CT, Mar 11, 2011
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    CT Guest

    They do it because people are too lazy or stupid to go somewhere
    cheaper.

    As I've already said, my fuel costs, despite going up, are nowhere
    near high enough to make me change the way I ride or drive, but there's
    no way I'll use a petrol station that is taking the piss on prices,
    especially when there are ones that are far cheaper within just a few
    miles.
     
    CT, Mar 11, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    Curiously the Shell garage have dropped their LPG by 5p / litre since
    last week. 130.9 for unleaded, 75.9 for LPG.
     
    Krusty, Mar 11, 2011
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    Jim Guest

    That's all very well if you have plenty of competing options. I'm sure
    things are a bit more difficult if you live in the back of beyond.
     
    Jim, Mar 11, 2011
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    CT Guest

    I'm sure they are.
     
    CT, Mar 11, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    plus those on expenses get more promo points[1] if they buy dearer petrol


    [1] if the points are by the £ not the litre
     
    wessie, Mar 11, 2011
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    DozynSleepy Guest

    Still ends up over the £600 mark when you add in the controller and
    battery pack.

    Have to say I quite like the look of the Golden Motor super thin
    "Printed Motor"(disc shaped copper windings 4 layers, 2mm thickness).
    That certainly looks innovative.

    url:http://www.goldenmotor.com/frame22.htm
    Scroll down to the bottom with "Super Thin Printed Motors" link.

    My "three days in a row of sunshine and warmth" rule for taking the
    bicycle out means any further investigation will have to wait until
    about June at the rate the cold wind keeps blowing ;-) .
     
    DozynSleepy, Mar 11, 2011
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    Malc Guest

    Malc, Mar 11, 2011
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    crn Guest

    You do not understand the problem.
    The oil companies charge garages according to a sliding scale based
    on sales per month. A typical small or rural garage can easily end
    up buying at more than supermarket selling prices. They typically
    make a GROSS profit of between 2 and 3 pence per litre which is
    why so many have closed down ver the last 10 years.

    The people really taking the piss are motorway services who can buy
    at rock bottom rates because they move enormous quantities but still
    charge top whack plus because they have a monopoly.
     
    crn, Mar 11, 2011
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    CT Guest

    IDGAF about how much fuel the petrol stations sell, or where they get
    it from and what they pay for it.

    What I'm saying is that in a relatively small radius there can be
    several petrol stations with prices differences of up to 5p/litre -
    maybe more.

    And what I don't really understand is why, if, in general, more and
    more people are admitting to driving more slowly or more smoothly to
    get better fuel consumption, that the more expensive stations don't
    seem to be any less busy.
     
    CT, Mar 11, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    Price per litre isn't the only factor though. I drive past an Esso & a BP
    on the way to Cardiff. Deviation off my route is a few metres in each case.
    I also have the option of using Tesco and might save 2p a litre and get
    some Clubcard points. I also have to drive 0.5 mile off the A48 into Tesco
    and 0.5 mile back out, queuing at the trafic lights each way. This doesn't
    make any sense unless I'm actually going into Tesco to shop.

    Driving more smoothly is something that can be done which does not affect
    journey times in any big way. I've found that driving to Portsmouth and
    cruising at 75 mph does not affect my journey time compared to going as
    high as 85-90. I spend more time at 75 mph and less at 60 mph as I don't
    catch up so many bottlenecks on the M4 & A34. Fuel consumption improves by
    "some". I'm also less stressed when I get to the destination, although the
    climate comtrol is a big factor with that too.
     
    wessie, Mar 11, 2011
  14. The back of beyond!! Get a fucking clue, this is not the Australian
    outback where it is 200 miles between pubs. This is one crowed little
    fucking island (plus a few bits) where everything is no more than 10
    minutes away.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 11, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    I must remember to tell my parents that, it'll give 'em a good laugh.
     
    Krusty, Mar 11, 2011
  16. Absolutely. You may care to argue, or not, that different driving
    styles, or magnets, or cyclone technology can do much to reduce the cost
    you pay for this and you may be right. To single out petrol use is both
    wrong and very understandable. You only buy insurance once a year and
    despite the fact it continues to go up regardless of how careful you are
    or how old you get or how much effort you put into neighbourhood watch you
    only see the bill once a year and having once again spent sufficient time
    that you could have earned the cash equivalent of half a dozen blow jobs
    to get a pound off the anger passes. Somebody has to pay for all the
    roads you want to lose your licenses on, the costs of these go up on an
    inflation + whim of the taxman basis. The costs to the NHS of people now
    approaching retirement who are suffering premature brain damage from a
    lifetime of breathing lead with every breath. The cost to every consumer
    in the whole world of tackling the effects of excessive C02 in the
    atmosphere. The subsidy given by government to foreign car manufacturers
    to keep a few jobs in a place that would be best left a ghost town
    anyway.. The money spent in legal aid defending scrap metal merchants
    from attempts by the VAT man to make them pay their dues. The list of the
    real costs of motoring is almost endless but the only one that jumps up
    and slaps us round the face a hundred or more times every year is the raw
    cost of the fuel. If you want to save money on motoring the only way to
    do it is to stop doing it, a light right foot is not the answer and you
    all know it.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 11, 2011
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    boots Guest

    I wonder what the economics of going say just 5 miles of route & back
    for 3ppl cheaper really are.
    Only if you're a senile old gimmer with attention span of a goldfish.
     
    boots, Mar 11, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    SIRPip, Mar 11, 2011
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    boots Guest

    I certainly used to when you got gift promotions from BP and I had a
    fuel card. If it's more expensive, them it must be better
     
    boots, Mar 11, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    I just spoke to a mate from Bishop's Cleeve. He spends about £100 a week on
    fuel which he puts on a 1% cashback credit card. His employer then pays the
    credit card bill. Mostly he uses Tesco so gets about 5000 Clubcard points
    each year. He can convert those into £150 of vouchers to spend in shops,
    Eurotunnel etc. So, he nets about £200 in his pocket for doing **** all
    apart from put fuel in his company car.
     
    wessie, Mar 11, 2011
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