More Cibie headlights

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Hog, Mar 18, 2006.

  1. Hog

    Hog Guest


    "But for the elderly in particular, who are already handicapped by
    night-time driving difficulties, glare from HID headlight encounters on
    two-lane roads can be dangerous,"

    So WTF are are the senile old cretins allowed to drive at all
     
    Hog, Mar 19, 2006
    #21
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  2. No more than ever, I'd say.

    What I *have* noticed is more cars driving around (lighted) town and
    suburbs with no lights at all.

    I think this is probably because lots of cars now have illuminated
    instrument panels whether the lights are on or off, and so the drivers
    don't actually realise they haven't switched on their lights.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 19, 2006
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  3. Hog

    Ben Guest

    I would argue that on any normal streetlit road, if everyone used
    sidelights, it would actually make it safer and easier to see where
    you're going as well as people see you.

    It would also make it easier to see pedestrians and cyclists because
    their light wouldn't get drowned out be over-powerful vehicle light.

    It's only on unlit roads where you actually _need_ headlights.
     
    Ben, Mar 19, 2006
    #23
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    There is certainly a case for compulsory eye testing to retain your
    licence after the age of 50 rather than 70. To detect the particular
    problem of 'dazzle' would, however, need something a bit more
    sophisticated than the 'read a number plate' spot tests that have been
    proposed (e.g. by West Mercia Police).
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    Pete Fisher, Mar 19, 2006
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  5. Hog

    Pip Guest

    So it seems.
    They did. Joe Lucas, aka The Prince Of Darkness, produced those
    fuckawful sealed beam lights that became OEM with every British car
    maker for decades. I heard a Mini approaching the otehr evening and
    turned to face it - "Shit", I thought: "He's got a nasty electrical
    problem, his lights are a bit on the dim side". Then I remembered -
    that's what they all used to be like.

    I recall the first cars appearing with factory halogen headlights, and
    the contrast on the road - oncoming, or in the mirror you could spot
    the Sealed Beam Boys by their famous impersonations of stunned
    glow-worms in brown beer bottles. So many cars then had their lights
    adjusted downwards, so the pool of pathetic 'illumination' was at
    least visible from inside the car. Lucas products were adequate for
    lighting the front bumper and that was it.
    That's me, that is. Building and driving road rally cars led me to
    fitting halogen headlights with 100W bulbs in them, as well as
    spotlights, foglights, driving lights and floodlights all over the
    fronts of cars, creating mobile solar systems in order to see the next
    corner - and round it a bit too. This led to secondary wiring looms,
    fuse panels and relays for the lights, and eventually to having an
    alternator rebuilt to run the wrong way to enable a second fitting on
    the other side of the engine.

    **** knows how much all this weighed and how much power it sapped, but
    it was balanced by fitting a second battery in the boot on a
    split-charge system to permit 24 volt starting, overcoming the
    resistance to turning of a cold hi-compression engine.

    I'm sure that all the retro-fitted lights taht I indulged in and felt
    so vital at the time would be outperformed by modern OEM headlights
    and driving lights.
    There is that, for sure. I'm nowhere near as good in the dark as I
    used to be and in recent years have frequently suffered a form of
    night blindness which makes it very difficult to see past oncoming
    headlights. I compensated for this by fitting higher-output bulbs in
    my own lights and raising the aim so I could see down the left kerb or
    verge. This only adds to the 'headlight arms race', of course.
    Good job I'm now more reasonable and have discovered Silverstars,
    then.
     
    Pip, Mar 19, 2006
    #25

  6. try riding your motorcycle at night with only a side light working , see
    how long it is before you here that phrase
    '' sorry mate i never saw you '' then come back and preach how safe side
    lights are
     
    Steve Robinson, Mar 19, 2006
    #26
  7. Steve Robinson wrote
    Oddly enough, on the thankfully few occasions I have not seen them first
    and as a result heard that particular phrase directed at me it has
    always been during daylight hours. I have yet had a blind **** attempt
    to murder me in the hours of darkness and come anywhere near as close as
    the day stalkers have done.

    But then again I am at home in the dark, it is My Time.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 19, 2006
    #27
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    Ben Guest

    You are a fuckwit aren't you?

    If nobody else is running headlights, then sidelights are perfectly
    visible.
     
    Ben, Mar 19, 2006
    #28
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    deadmail Guest

    Looked in a mirror recently?
     
    deadmail, Mar 19, 2006
    #29
  10. Hog

    Hog Guest

    **** off you slime eating toad
    <flounce>

    mirror mirror on the wall who..........
     
    Hog, Mar 19, 2006
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  11. Hog

    Hog Guest

    Aye they seem to be the kiddies.
    Hope Halfrauds have them tomorrow
     
    Hog, Mar 19, 2006
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    sweller Guest

    My MZ only had its pilot light and I used that for ages this winter
    before I got around to fixing it.

    Hey guess what? I wasn't knocked off you sanctimonious wanker.
     
    sweller, Mar 19, 2006
    #32
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    Fr Jack Guest

    For my money, it should be every 5 years from the date you passed your
    test.

    It should be compulsory, carried out by your optician, results notified to
    DVLA. All non-attenders to be subject to an immediate 28 day ban.

    It'll go a long way to reducing SMIDSYs.
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    Fr Jack, Mar 19, 2006
    #33
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    deadmail Guest

    Nice. I've missed you.
     
    deadmail, Mar 19, 2006
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    Mike Thomson Guest

    "Wicked Uncle Nigel" wrote
    I'm not too sure about this but ISTR that the dreaded MOT now requires
    lights to be adjusted correctly, not just checked for being too high but
    also for being too low.
     
    Mike Thomson, Mar 20, 2006
    #35
  16. In terms of current technology, I think it was some time ago. I can't
    walk through the city at night without getting a pain in my eyes from
    one or two of these modern very small very powerful white
    headlamps. They are both brighter than other lights, and of much
    smaller diameter, so the higher power is focussed onto a much smaller
    spot on the retina. Not everyone finds them painful as I do, but there
    are plenty who do. It's not a serious pain, but it does suggest to me
    that the power-size ratio is approaching, and perhaps has passed,
    retinal damaging levels.
     
    Chris Malcolm, Mar 22, 2006
    #36
  17. I used to think bright lights would solve that problem, and outside
    towns rode around in the daytime with both filamemts on in my cibie,
    frying insects who flew into the beam. One bright sunny day, on a big
    red and chrome bike, wearing my high-vis fluorescent yellow jacket,
    and with my main beam on, and the only vehicle on the road, I came to
    a screeching stop just feet from a car which had stopped at a side
    road, waited several seconds (ah good, he's seen me), and then when I
    was too close to stop safely, pulled out straight in front of me. The
    terrified driver said he hadn't seen me. I believed him, did some
    research, and found that visibility wasn't the important problem, it
    was attention, i.e., what is called attentional blindness, or
    sometimes inattentional blindness. It's a problem of expectations.

    I tried counting the times it looked as though I hadn't been seen when
    using lights, and not using lights, and I couldn't find a significant
    difference. The most important point, however, is that however bright
    your lights, there will still be someone who fails to spot you. Ask a
    fireman if he's seen cars drive into a parked fire engine with its
    light show in full blast and say "SMIDSY".
     
    Chris Malcolm, Mar 22, 2006
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  18. Hog

    Howard Guest

    Having been smidsy'd, I ride like an old ****, carefully.

    What difference does FOAK think the addition of a claxon to the
    bright lights would make?

    I often think of using my horns in relevant circumstances, but
    it's not in the culture is it?
     
    Howard, Mar 22, 2006
    #38
  19. Howard wrote
    None, you need a change in your thinking. I am an old ****, I do ride
    and carefully is not in my vocabulary.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 22, 2006
    #39
  20. Hog

    Howard Guest

    Hell for leather it is then.
     
    Howard, Mar 23, 2006
    #40
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