More bike problems..

Ok so put new batt in the 600f4i and its running again.. YAY!

Last problem it seems to have is the RHS indicators (both front and rear) do not work. It is def not the globes as I connected the
LHS front cable to the RHS front indicator and it worked ok - I even did something weird (not exactly sure) and made the rear RHS
indicator work but can not do this again.

When I click the indicator switch for the RHS, nothing happens - not the clicking noise and the indicator symbol on the dash does
not turn on either.

Any clues on what the problem is/how to rectify or find a solution are much appreciated!

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 30 Apr 2006 06:12:26 GMT

Indicator problems are almost always either bad connection or bad
flasher can.

As the left side works, the flasher is OK.

As you managed to get the rear working for a moment or two, it's
probably not the switchgear, it's probably a bad connection near the
flasher can, or a bad earth.

It may also be a bad connection to the front, which is messing up the
whole system.

So go over the circuit, cleaning and tightening all flasher-related
connections, especially any earths.

If no go, try removing things from the equation. For example, get one
of those 12v continuity tester doovers from supercheap - they are a
light with an alligator clip wire, and a probe. Clip the wire to a
good earth, and test the working side to make sure the earth is good.
Then test the unworking side, starting from the bulb connection in the
flasher and going back until you reach the switchgear. When the probe
starts working, you know where your problem is.

You may have a bad connection, you may have a broken wire.

I find switchgear tends to be the problem, as they tend to rely on
handlebar earth and sliding contacts. you get a bit of oxidation or
the earthwhatsit moves and doesn't make good connection as the indicator
slide moves, and you get intermittent failures. So taking it apart and
giving the contacts a go with wet and dry or emery cloth, and a squirt
of degreaser might be a good idea.

Zebee

 

Could be a dodgy flasher unit, could be a dodgy blinker switch, could be
a couple of other things too.

Check the blinker switch and the flasher unit first though...


G-S

 

Buy a multi-meter. They're more fun!

 

Long before the magic of indicators, the norm was the good old arm.

Instructions.

1. When needing to turn left remove left hand from handle bar and raise arm
to left at shoulder height.
2. If needing to make a right turn remove right hand from handlebar and raise
arm to right at shoulder height
3. Ride bike to Motorcycle repair shop.

 

Yeah, but they can give you problems too. Because they're
high-impedance meters (ie. they use very little current) if you have
poor connections in your wiring the multimeter will say it's OK and has
12V, but if you try to hook a light bulb up to it it'll either not
light at all, or work very dimly.

In other news, I made myself some LED indicators for the CT90 last
night[1]. They're nice and bright, heaps better than the usual 6V kit.
I'll make the flasher unit tonight[2].


BTH
[1] Well, I converted some bought ones to use four 10mm/100,000mcd
LEDs...
[2] I made it up on the breadboard last night, and it works nicely. I
just need to make it small enough to fit inside an old headlight relay
casing.

 

Except that it has been a legal requirement to have working electric
indicators on motor vehicles* since before the original poster was born.
Failure to fix his indicators will see the OP booked.

JL
*provided they were manufactured sometime after moses got out of short
pants

 

In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 01 May 2006 14:56:32 +1000

State dependent.

For example, in SA, if fitted they must work... But when I last
checked in 1992 or so, they were not required on any bike.

in NSW, they are required on bikes made after 1982.

Zebee
- owner of bikes without indicators fitted.

 

Hmm will remember that

I bet the blueslip guy has NFI about that though

 

In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 1 May 2006 15:47:17 +1000

Haven't had problems with the Yam with blueslips or pinkslips.

Zebee

 

Errm I think you'll find that should be "if fitted when new" in all
states except Tas (which didn't want to play in the new national regs
came in, umm 04 ?), I could be wrong as I've not checked it though going
off my increasingly unreliable memory.

JL

 

In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 01 May 2006 17:51:13 +1000

When I got the Yam blueslipped I asked about the instruments and
indicators specifically.

I didn't have to have either.

Zebee

 

"BT Humble" wrote

But most people have no idea on how to use them.

I spent $20 on a dick Smith one when I couldn't find my Fluke 78 for
six months (it was in the bike trailer). A bit worrying as I paid $400
for it 15 years ago.

Agreed. On auto circuits, a globe on a couple of leads is much easier.

Theo

 

Yeah but isn't it classified as modified ? Anyways, until I can be arsed
digging out the regs I'll have to shut up on the grounds I'm
unneccessarily inconveniencing electrons and adding no value (1)

JL
(1)(yeah yeah so what else is news)

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 02 May 2006 19:29:11 +1000

Only in Qld I said it was a Yam XT and they never asked me for any
engineer's certificate or anything.

but more to the point, the RTA bod on the phone didn't even know what
model of bike, I just asked if I needed a speedo and blinkers and she
said not if it was made before 82.

Zebee

 

...well thanks for all the tips - funnily enough, the indicators actually do work - its the button that's a bit problematic - instead
of pushing to the right, it needs to be pushed to the right and pushed in a tiny bit.