Modern bikes are good aren't they? - plus battery tender of choice FOAK?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pete Fisher, Nov 5, 2010.

  1. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Picked up the Shiver today. The more I ride it the more I like it. Plus
    the bonus of not having to worry about an MoT for two years. Gives me
    time to fettle the SO bikes and still just get the Aprilia out and have
    a bimble without having to piss about with it. The battery is really
    easy to get at, but even though AFAIK it has just an immobiliser not an
    alarm, I think I will fit a permanent battery tender lead as the
    terminals are very easy to get at (I can't spot an accessory socket as
    such). So what is the device of choice - Optimate still?
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    Pete Fisher, Nov 5, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    CTEK seems to get the vote, in anecdotal evidence. More bikes are coming
    with AGM batteries and they are the best at coping with that particular
    electro-chemistry.

    XS800 is a lot cheaper than an Optimate too, around £28
    http://www.ctekchargers.co.uk/productindex.php

    Argos have one for £50 that would be okay for car use too
    http://tinyurl.com/39tf4vq or a fiver cheaper at
    http://www.mdsbattery.co.uk/shop/productprofile.asp?ProductGroupID=3039
     
    wessie, Nov 5, 2010
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  3. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Thanks. Looks good.
    I have one I got from Aldi, which TBF I could easily hook up to the
    Shiver by just lifting the seat and using crocodile clips. Not sure
    about leaving it on for long periods though. I prefer one for extended
    use with a dedicated socket in case a clip slips and sparks IYSWIM.

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    Pete Fisher, Nov 5, 2010
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    nicknoxx Guest

    +1
     
    nicknoxx, Nov 5, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    I'm sure I read the Accumate (the 12v/6v version of the Optimate) had
    better recovery and floating properties than the Optimate. Anyway, it's
    the one I have and is still going strong for me after nearly ten years of
    use.

    It's also really easy to make your own on bike terminals as it uses the
    standard Tamiya type connectors, readily available from Maplins or in
    cheaper multi packs on eBay.
     
    sweller, Nov 6, 2010
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  6. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest


    My original Optimate 1 only recently gave up the ghost. I got it when I
    bought the first Nordwest IIRC so that lasted over 15 years.
    That's a point worth considering. I could equip all the fleet (such as
    it is these days) with a standard quick hook up.
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    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" |
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    Pete Fisher, Nov 6, 2010
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    darsy Guest

    My Optimate 2 recently followed it's uncle 1 to the graveyard. Fucking
    pieces of shit. And my crappy Halfords car charger also died last
    week.

    FFS, they're only transformers/rectifiers/a little bit of current
    monitoring - how hard can it be to make a reliable one, FFS?
     
    darsy, Nov 6, 2010
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  8. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Too complicated. I have an ancient one with just needle on a dial
    ammeter that is still working after 30 years. I resort to it for
    resuscitating batteries so dead an Optimate won't rouse them. Got the
    Westco back after the alarm on the MX5 (now ripped out) got it flat as a
    tack. It remains to be seen how long the 'Aldi' one with buttons and
    LEDs lasts.

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    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" |
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    Pete Fisher, Nov 6, 2010
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  9. Pete Fisher

    darsy Guest

    I used to have one like that, made it myself - WTF did I do with it?
    Oh yeah, I remember - blew up a competitor's "robot" at an electronics
    fair. *ahem* - sorry, Mick.

    You know, I'm 1/2 tempted to order some bits from CPC and just fucking
    make another one.
     
    darsy, Nov 6, 2010
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  10. Pete Fisher

    darsy Guest

    that's almost exactly what I was thinking of, although, being a
    purist, I'd probably put it in a nice metal box with a BFO 250V-rated
    toggle switch to turn it on and off.

    Mmmm diodes.
     
    darsy, Nov 6, 2010
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    pffft.

    One light bulb.

    Two pieces of wire.

    One diode.

    Done.
     
    Simon Wilson, Nov 7, 2010
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