[QUOTE="simonk"] [QUOTE] [1] need to work out[2] how to have fully functioning always-logged-on PC sitting in the living room and not have 16-year-old stepson fuck it up looking for porn. [2] wireless keyboard in locked-cupboard is the current plan.[/QUOTE] Tell him there's no porn on it? Or is he using it to furtively surf the net[/QUOTE] Sorry - didn't make myself clear - the latter. And as you know, surfing for porn without knowing not to click on the "Click here for more free porn" active-X controls results in sick PCs. [QUOTE] How's it working out for noise and heat, BTW? I stuck my (shop-bought) PVR in a cupboard as part of the recently-finished flat-remodelling, and it's doing OK, but getting a bit on the warm side. I'd imagine an Athlon-powered thing would get considerably hotter, but then it's got a proper fan[/QUOTE] I bought the Shuttle "Quite PSU" and a 16dB mainfan, and a "silent" fluid bearing HD. It's very quite. I mean, you can hear it if you listen for it, but it's quieter, say, than a VCR or cheap DVD player. Heat doesn't seem to be a problem, but it's out in the open, sitting on the floor, rather than being stuffed in a cupboard.