MIni DV Hints and Tips

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by entwisi, Feb 17, 2005.

  1. entwisi

    entwisi Guest

    I've bought a miniDV camcorder[1] to film soon to be Entwisi Jnr. Any
    hints Tips etc that Would make quality of films better? Editing
    hints/tips? Best tapes to use etc

    TIA

    [1] Canon MV750i £320 delivered from Pixmania, Seemed cheap as Jessops
    won't go below £420.
     
    entwisi, Feb 17, 2005
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  2. entwisi

    Steve P Guest

    I use Pinnacle Studio which has got much better over the 5 years I've
    been using it. A lot of new PCs now come bundled with it. Good enough
    for decent home movies especially with a DVD burner as writing back to
    tape after editing used to be a pain.

    http://www.pinnaclesys.com/

    With HD space so cheap nowadays there's no need to capture in preview
    quality. I just capture a whole tape, edit it down and then burn it to
    DVD. You could also consider Nero. I've had a play around with that and
    it seems. Perhaps less intuitive (IMHO) but it also seems to write
    faster for some reason.

    HTH
     
    Steve P, Feb 17, 2005
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  3. entwisi

    frag Guest

    Practise. And lots of it. So by the time you get to Jnr Mk 3 you should be
    fine :)

    Oh, and keep *off* the bloody zoom button, or edit the zooms out
    afterwards. Nothing more annoying.

    Get a decent tripod, set camera up to film wide area and then go and join
    in playing with Jnr & mum & soft toys, etc and forget about camera.
     
    frag, Feb 17, 2005
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  4. entwisi

    Sorby Guest

    It's a good idea to record record nothing (leave the lens-cap on) for the
    entire length of a new tape before you use it. This puts a time-code along
    the whole tape which subsequent recording 'hooks' on to. The main advantage
    of this is that you don't get nasty jumps between scene changes on play-back
    but, as you're planning to do post-editing, this may be less of a problem.

    I know you haven't specifically asked for shooting tips but here are some
    anyway! :

    As much as possible aim to edit in-camera (i.e. be judicious about what you
    shoot and how long you shoot for). Keep shooting sequences short.[1] And
    FFS hold the camera still (use a tripod [2])! And if you *must* use the
    zoom then use it sparingly and for a reason - i.e. before pressing 'RECORD'
    zoom into your subject - then, once recording, zoom out - but only if
    there's something worth zooming out to- i.e. the rest of the family/a herd
    of cows/toys gathered around your sprog. Ideally do all your zooming whilst
    not recording. Only pan if it'll add some value to the footage. If you want
    to pan then make sure you've already planned where you're panning from and
    to.
    The above tips could save you *hours* of post-editing on the computer too.

    [1] I've got 40+ MiniDV tapes which I simply haven't had time to edit.
    There's so much footage of our kids etc I'm not sure I'll ever get around to
    editing any of it - the task is simply too daunting.
    [2] Hardly any of the footage of our kids has me in the frame. Not a bad
    thing, some might say, but my kids are bound to wonder if they ever even
    *had* a Daddy when they review our home videos in years to come.
     
    Sorby, Feb 17, 2005
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  5. entwisi wrote
    Get one of them "So you want to make videos" type series magazine
    thingies from W H Smith and *practice*

    If you are really serious then do your editing on paper.

    The expensive ones.

    I have A Man in Jessops.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 17, 2005
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  6. entwisi

    Steve P Guest

    I've got about 6 tapes worth captured on my PC currently being edited...
    mind you it's been like that for about 3 months now :).

    Actually the DVDs I have done haven't been edited with any real skill,
    just cutting out the boring bits and the SO's annoying habit of always
    panning the camera around the room. Doing it like that you still get
    something that kids like watching but it doesn't take forever to do.
    I always forget to keep my mouth shut when holding the camera. It's
    amazing how strong the accent comes across on tape :(
     
    Steve P, Feb 17, 2005
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  7. entwisi

    rb Guest

    <tangent mode>

    I finally got round to editing some of my camcorder footage and
    transferring it to HDD/DVD but my camcorder decided to go tits up at
    the time[1]. The problem is it's a Digital8 camcorder and while I
    wouldn't mind buying a new camera I would want miniDV next time.

    A new entry level Digital8 camcorder is about £200, 2nd hand market
    seems to be non existant. Can anyone suggest a cheaper method of
    getting my old footage from the tapes to the firewire port on my PC?

    Household insurance has been considered but I suspect it would cost
    more than that in increased premiums.

    </tm>

    What's the best preferred method to archive digital camera footage? I
    was transferring to DVD for the folks to be able to watch it but would
    also like to archive the video in something better than MPEG-2.


    [1] Tape door refuses to close and always ejects with an error. It did
    this once before and cost £250 to repair so new would be cheaper this
    time.
     
    rb, Feb 17, 2005
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  8. "rb" <> came forth with the following in
    uk.rec.motorcycles

    Oddly enough - tape. Edit it and then write back to tape via dv port. No
    compression loss as it writes in DV format which is what the original
    footage is

    Unless you edit it in chunks of 4.5Gb and write the avi to DVD. For an
    hours tape you'll need 4 DVD's

    --

    Mark
    ZX12R-B1 (Blue)
    CG125 (hers)
    Blata Ninja 3.4
    BOTSWCAW#3
     
    Mark Derbyshire, Feb 17, 2005
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  9. entwisi

    entwisi Guest


    Cheers for that one, Tape running as I type
    All knowledge is good knowledge :eek:)
    So mental note to self, make sure you edit soon after shooting or it
    probably will never get done.
    Cheers, again noted.
     
    entwisi, Feb 17, 2005
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  10. entwisi

    entwisi Guest

    Thats exactly why I bought one with DV IN.
     
    entwisi, Feb 17, 2005
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  11. entwisi

    entwisi Guest

    Right, my dulcet tones will need keeping in check, makes note to get some
    decent soundtracks for when I forget.
     
    entwisi, Feb 17, 2005
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  12. entwisi

    entwisi Guest

    3!

    No chance mate, 2 and its scissor time
    Right.
     
    entwisi, Feb 17, 2005
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  13. entwisi

    entwisi Guest

    Will be done under Linux so thanks for the recommendation but it won't be
    used.
     
    entwisi, Feb 17, 2005
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  14. entwisi

    Sorby Guest

    That too - but I suppose what I really meant was that if I had edited
    in-camera (or as Auvache so wisely said, before even turning the camera on)
    I wouldn't have 40+ hours of footage to edit - and the task would be
    significantly less daunting.
    np!
     
    Sorby, Feb 17, 2005
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  15. entwisi

    kayman Guest

    Been there, done that, 11 DVD's later containing 11 RAR files from 54.x Gb
    down to 48Gb so I save my self a few Gb.
     
    kayman, Feb 18, 2005
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  16. entwisi

    rb Guest

    Is that one RAR file split across 11 discs? I don't fancy that much, it
    must take forever to get the data back onto HDD to do anything with it.

    I've decided that HDD prices are low enough to make them convenient
    enough not to worry about writing back to tape/or DVD.

    Now I just need to find a cheap Digital8 player with a DV output.
     
    rb, Feb 18, 2005
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