Middle East Oil Dependency and Peace and Riding...

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Larry xlax Lovisone, Dec 1, 2004.

  1. True hurts... Americans are Middle East Oil dependants... people kill over
    the control of oil... but the only way to become non dependent is by sucking
    every drop of their oil first... ours second... a Middle East with no oil
    just sand is a peaceful land... like what's to fight for??? mercy there's
    enough sand to go around and then some...

    So ride hard and fast... forget miserly MPG rates... burn more Middle East
    fuel for peace today... it's good down to the very last drop!!!

    Larry L
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    Larry xlax Lovisone, Dec 1, 2004
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  2. I live in America. America has no problems except for idiots obsessing
    over the bullshit they've been spoonfed from watching too much TV and
    lazy bastards looking for a handout. But hey it's their life to
    mis-spend. I know mine is worth much more than that.

    If America starts to suck I'll move to Europe. Already have their
    citizenship.

    If the entire world blows up tomorrow then what are you obsessing
    over? It's all gonna end soon anyways.

    In the meantime you can stop crossposting every single thread you
    originate to three groups, unless it has to do with reeky and
    sportbikes and the bay area.
     
    Greek Shipping Magnets, Dec 1, 2004
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  3. Democrats all!


    The Democrats hardly feel that whining for a handout is "misspent"....its
    their life's work for cryin out loud.

    A Republican!
    If America starts to suck....I'll help fix it. Of course...that means if we
    elect a democrat to the office of President, I will vote republican...twice!


    why not? Everyone else has been doing it lately, maybe its the new "in"
    thing?
     
    Troy the Troll, Dec 1, 2004
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  4. Larry xlax Lovisone

    Calgary Guest

    Although supply and demand of oil is truly a world market, most of
    your oil comes from Canada and Mexico. At $45.00 per barrel we have
    lots to sell you.

    Don Binns
    84 - Virago 1000

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    Calgary, Dec 2, 2004
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  5. Well, not as much as you might hope.
     
    Troy the Troll, Dec 2, 2004
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  6. Larry xlax Lovisone

    bowman Guest

    Tribal gods, just like 6000 years ago.
     
    bowman, Dec 2, 2004
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  7. Although supply and demand of oil is truly a world market, most of
    America imports 16% of it's oil from Canada... but at $45.00 there is no
    more cheap oil... we use to pay 30 dollars for a 42 gallon barrel of
    crude...

    Canada is selling crude that should be used to fuel it's own economic
    grow... at this rate you'll never have the Canadian dollar rise against the
    US greenback... you like being in our shadow eh???

    How much oil does Canada left to sell??? estimates put that figure at 4,500
    million barrels of crude... compared to Iraq's 115,000 million barrels of
    crude... Saudi Arabia's 261,000 millions barrels of crude...

    Larry L
    94 RC45 #2
    Have a wheelie NICE day...
    Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
    If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
    V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
    1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
    Yank and bank your brains loose...
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    Larry xlax Lovisone, Dec 2, 2004
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  8. Larry xlax Lovisone

    Calgary Guest

    Which makes Canada the largest supplier of oil to the US. I think
    Saudi Arabia is second with Mexico a close third.
    Yeah, you gotta love it!
    55-60% of US consumption is imported at a cost of $50 billion+ per
    year, amounting to the largest single element of your trade deficit.
    That is not a good condition for any country and is likely not
    sustainable for the next generation. If there is a shadow, it is
    diminishing.

    The Canadian dollar has been gaining by leaps and bounds against your
    weakened dollar. Some speculators are predicting the Canuck buck to
    be on par with your dollar before too long.

    I wonder what a new Harley will cost then?
    Quoted from March 2003 GeoTimes

    Estimates of Canada’s oil reserves jumped from 4.9 billion barrels to
    180 billion this year, making the country the second-largest oil
    reserve in the world, according to an annual survey conducted by the
    Oil and Gas Journal. The change catapults Canada ahead of Iraq in
    terms of reserve size, and decreases OPEC’s share of the world’s oil
    reserves by more than 10 percent.
    End Quote

    Estimates vary depending on how you assess the volume in the Alberta
    oil sands. Rest assured as long as oil and natural gas are used as
    the primary source of energy, Canada in general and Alberta
    specifically will welcome Americas lust for the internal combustion
    engine and your willingness to incur large trade deficits to fuel that
    lust.

    Scuse me I have to go polish my shoes for the morning. Seems I picked
    up some of that black gold while walking in from the yard. ;-)


    Don Binns
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    Calgary, Dec 2, 2004
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  9. shadow? Canada is already a subsidiary of America Inc....they just don't
    like to admit it. And by subsidiary, I was thinking something along the
    lines of ummm....lets see.....the tire of a cage. Needed, for sure, but
    replaceable, and cheaply, with another, in a heartbeat.


    to heck with their crude, what are you going to heat your house with when
    they run out of natural gas?
     
    Troy the Troll, Dec 2, 2004
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  10. yee-haw! Bring on the soccer moms!


    Cool! Then when the snowbirds from Calgary flock south, they can drop lots
    of their improved dollars, inflating our economy instead of theres. I like
    this stuff....


    The tar sands are a wild and crazy animal. I wouldn't get all carried away
    quite yet. Know what you need bazillions of to create oil from tar sands?
    Natural gas. And you don't have as much as you used to think you did. And
    without it, tar sands are just really cool rock formations....tough to fit
    in an SUV's gas tank....
     
    Troy the Troll, Dec 2, 2004
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  11. Larry xlax Lovisone

    JB Guest

    Good to know!
    Thanx
     
    JB, Dec 2, 2004
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  12. Actually Saudi Arabia is first at 17% you're tied with Mexico for second at
    16%... then comes Venezuela at 13% followed by Nigeria 6% and finally Iraq
    at 5% but Iraq's output will change soon as we open the tap more thanks to
    Bush's plan...

    Yeah??? it will just drive up the cost of all the American goods that Canada
    can't live without...

    Our labor unions will love it because being on par the US buck ought to
    drive the US auto makers back home having to cut labor cost by shutting down
    all the Canadian factories...

    By then they be will shrinked wrapped in pairs and sold in Cost Co...

    Save it... it will be worth a lot more after your oil fields hit empty...

    Larry L
    94 RC45 #2
    Have a wheelie NICE day...
    Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
    If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
    V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
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    Yank and bank your brains loose...
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    Larry xlax Lovisone, Dec 2, 2004
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  13. Larry xlax Lovisone

    Calgary Guest

    I don't know about bazillions, but I can tell you big oil is currently
    spending billions (that's billions with a B)on the tar sands and plans
    on spending billions more. Much as you may not like it, it is
    happening, the oil is there, the technology is available to extract it
    and since it now makes financial sense that is exactly what they are
    doing.

    Go guy some gas today secure in the knowledge some of it likely came
    from those really cool rock formations.

    Don Binns
    84 - Virago 1000

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    Calgary, Dec 2, 2004
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  14. Larry xlax Lovisone

    Calgary Guest

    I looked up three sites and all had Canada ahead of Saudi Arabia.
    Most recently on the news yesterday it was mentioned at one of the
    public statements surrounding Bush's visit to Canada.
    No way your protectionist trade practices have almost stifled true
    free trade between our countries. All it has done is drive up the
    cost of lumber, beef and a ton of other consumer products on your side
    of the border. Must be comforting to know you pay more for new stick
    built houses down there because of your trade policies.

    As for us, there is a whole world out there thrilled to buy the
    quality of products Canada can supply.
    Alberta has no debt, I repeat no debt. We ran a 4 billion dollar
    surplus this year, four billion! Not bad for a population of +/- 3
    million. I doubt a big four car part has ever been made in Alberta.

    I think I will keep the oil, you can have the nuts and bolts.
    Alternate forms of energy will be found and used long before we run
    out of oil.

    Damn that last little black spot is still there.

    Don Binns
    84 - Virago 1000

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    Calgary, Dec 2, 2004
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  15. Larry xlax Lovisone

    Calgary Guest

    Got lots of that too, but if we ever run out we have a shitload of
    coal.

    Don Binns
    84 - Virago 1000

    When an ill wind blows you can either build a hut or hoist a sail.

    http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/reeky.htm
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    http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/walkercalgary.htm
    http://www3.telus.net/public/dbinns/calgarybrowning.htm
     
    Calgary, Dec 2, 2004
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  16. Well, lets gather a little prespective here, and not get too fast and loose
    with "reserves" definitions. They have been pouring money into those sands
    for decades, so its hardly a "$50/bbl" arguement, there best daily
    production rate in those decades has been perhaps 600,000 BBL/Day ( call it
    10 average Saudia wells ) so the volumes involved don't look to replace our
    imported oil anytime soon, and without the natural gas available to cook the
    stuff, it comes back to rocks with nearly immovable oil in
    it....again...something which can't by itself go into an SUV's tank.

    Whereas condensate from shallow gas wells in Ohio? If you didn't mind
    occasional burnt valves, you could nearly pour it directly into your
    tank....

    it does...it does....

    just not as much as a few wells in the Middle East....
     
    Troy the Troll, Dec 2, 2004
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  17. yeah, but so do we.
     
    Troy the Troll, Dec 2, 2004
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  18. Larry xlax Lovisone

    Gniewko Guest

    No, actually the biggest recipients of handouts, in the form of farm
    subsidies and pork barrel projects are the Republican rural states.

    -Gniewko
     
    Gniewko, Dec 2, 2004
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  19. Larry xlax Lovisone

    Gniewko Guest

    No, actually the biggest recipients of handouts, in the form of farm
    subsidies and pork barrel projects, are the Republican rural states.

    -Gniewko
     
    Gniewko, Dec 2, 2004
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  20. Bush was worried about being pelted with snow balls leaving the building...
    a 1% margin is thin enough to weathervane with the political breezes...
    Protectionism... nasty little thing that we should left behind in Europe
    hundred of years ago... but no we had to bring over the pond now didn't
    we???

    Don where's your cage made???

    I'm thrilled to have bought a 1952 DeHavilland Chipmunk... a true military
    trainer that's pure sex with wings... I'm happy to say that it was designed
    built in Canada first then exported to England... yes it was that good the
    Brits didn't mess it up with a redesign... also Mr.RC45s "Oh Shit" meter a
    Beltronics radar detector... other than Cline Dion what else is there
    Canadian that I can't live without???
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    http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3-03/bigimages/RC45RemoteRadar.JPG


    Standby... we'll soon export Alt E along with the 4 wheel bucket that
    consumes it...
    Maybe it's a tumor???

    Larry L
    94 RC45 #2
    Have a wheelie NICE day...
    Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
    If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
    V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
    1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
    Yank and bank your brains loose...
    http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
    http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
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    Larry xlax Lovisone, Dec 2, 2004
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