Michelin Macadam vs Pilot

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by garlicmonster, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. garlicmonster

    zymurgy Guest

    Well, the Azaro is on the FJ12, so hardly cutting edge in the power
    stakes, and the 020 was on the CBR1100XX.

    Looks like our mileage is varying on this one.

    Ginge could have something with the tyre pressure, but as i'm changing
    the whole rear end on it, it'll all be academic soon.

    Oi, WUN, where's me metal bits ?

    Oh, and i'll send over some spacer dimensions ..

    I thank ewe ..

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 26, 2009
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  2. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    Innit always the case when you find something that does what you want
    without frills? I dropped a bollock with the Avon replacements and fitted a
    set of Diablo Corsa III's. (The shop had no Avons in and "the man" told me
    to Corsa III's would suit the bike down to the ground. Nearly fucking did
    too.

    Utter crap. So crap, they're coming off after less than 500 miles and a pair
    of Bridgestones are going on. I loved the original 014's so I'm hoping the
    new version is at least as good.


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    Beav, Feb 26, 2009
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  3. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    I never had any spin-up problems with the Zed and Avons, but I did with
    Continental Sport attack.
    The OEM tyres were 014's and they never gave me any problems other than they
    wrren't as suited to a long trip as they only lasted a max 3000 miles and
    the last 1000 were horrible.

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    Beav, Feb 26, 2009
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  4. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    That was the main selling point for me, bu the grip I got was as good as
    I'll ever need too.


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    Beav, Feb 26, 2009
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  5. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    Sounds more like my missus than a tyre.

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    Beav, Feb 26, 2009
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  6. garlicmonster

    zymurgy Guest

    Yeah, I heard not to use 014's on the rear on anything heavy/powerful.

    Hence the choice of continuing to use the OEM D207's on the 12R

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 26, 2009
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  7. garlicmonster

    Lozzo Guest

    Are you mental?

    D207s are the single worst tyre ever made, with the exception of the
    Michelin Macadams.

    014s aren't bad tyres, they don't last too long but grip is good. I had
    them on my GSXR1000 and they never spat me off. My ZX-9R had D207s and
    I hated them. If I'd kept that bike any longer I would certainly have
    junked them and fitted a new set of Bridgestones because they felt
    awful to me. D207s are like riding on bloody marbles - you never ever
    feel like the bike is connected to the road in any proper way, and the
    wet weather grip is almost non-existent. I'd rather ride on
    sports/touring AV45/46 than 'sporty' D207s

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    Lozzo, Feb 26, 2009
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  8. garlicmonster

    Catman Guest

    I think thats a ding. 120 miles a day on motorways (mostly)

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    Catman, Feb 26, 2009
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  9. garlicmonster

    zymurgy Guest

    Quite possibly
    Yea, we've discussed this before. At least we're both agreed on the
    M90X
    Yea, I put an 014 on the front of the 12R before the IOM, and it got
    shredded. Actually thinking about it, I did that trackday on it too.

    Remember the 12R is significantly heavier than the 9R, which improves
    the rear grip.

    9R Dry Weight, 183 kg
    12R Dry Weight, 210 kg

    I really like the Dunlop on this particular bike, it was great in the
    dry or wet, and it got a right wringing up the mountain on the IOM.

    Failed the MOT though afterwards :)

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 26, 2009
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  10. garlicmonster

    SD Guest

    Two words.

    Ham. Fisted.
     
    SD, Feb 26, 2009
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  11. garlicmonster

    zymurgy Guest

    Oi !

    Read the other place. This spin up was on the FJ, not anything
    powerful, like the 12R or the CBR.

    You little tinker.

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 26, 2009
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  12. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    You need concrete tyres then :)


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    Beav, Feb 27, 2009
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  13. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    They just wear a bit quick and when they square off, you can feel the "step"
    when you lean the bike. I didn't like that feeling one bit, but before the
    tyres reached that stage, they were fucking good.


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    Beav, Feb 27, 2009
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  14. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    A pal of mone had 207's on his SV650 and when I had a go on it, I thought
    the handling was fucking dire. I asked Christofire to have a go coz he'd
    owned an SV and could probably throw some light on why it felt like it about
    to fall over all the time. The opinion was tyres. My pal took that pair of
    020's I had lying around (with 280 miles on them) and was blown away by the
    difference. So was I when I rode it a few weeks later.

    It stopped me from ever even considering Dunlops.


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    Beav, Feb 27, 2009
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  15. garlicmonster

    zymurgy Guest

    See my pervious reply on bike weight.

    I'd go for something different on a 600.

    You need a hard compound on a lardy tourer ... :)

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 27, 2009
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  16. garlicmonster

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Pervious answer? I'm starting to get worried about you.
    I can't remember what I've got on the K100 but I ran my old ZX9R on
    Dunlop D207RRs for years without any worries (1) and I've got Dunlop
    Qualifier RRs on my 10R (2) so it's probably down to Dunlop selling
    cheaper tyres but pretending that they're the better spec ones rather
    than Dunlop tyres just being crap. (3)

    (1) It'd shake a bit at the front end if you crossed cats eyes hard on
    the gas exiting a corner but that's just entertainment.

    (2) I put them on just before doing the Manx GP last year and
    proceeded to ride like a bitch for the whole week but the sides are
    really shiny and there's hardly any wear on them.

    (3) This is me being totally unprovocative and I fully understand that
    I've got a bit of previous that needs taking into consideration.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 27, 2009
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  17. garlicmonster

    Lozzo Guest

    Normal D207s are worlds apart from the RR version. I've had a few sets
    of 207RRs and loved them, but the boggo stock D207 is a fucking
    horrible piece of shit that deserves only to be fitted to crap like old
    MZs and Jawas.

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    Lozzo, Feb 27, 2009
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  18. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
    typed
    Ooh ****.

    On the "to be done" pile.
    Oh, right. Well, *obviously* I've been waiting for those to make the
    best of the postage...

    Send 'em over, matey. S*rry, I forgot. I do that a lot.

    I blame Bear.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 28, 2009
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  19. garlicmonster

    zymurgy Guest

    Heh, too busy flying around over the lathe rather than fabricating
    stuff,

    Just not good enough.

    I have an option on a couple of spacers still attached to a rear
    spindle, but the cost is a bit fearsome.

    I'll send you a reminder email. ...

    Cheers,

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 28, 2009
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  20. garlicmonster

    Beav Guest

    I'd have thought that the tyre that came on the bike from new would've been
    at least adequate, bu those Dunlops were bloody difficult to ride on.
    I couldn't agree more, which is why when I loaded my Zed (199kg dry) with
    luggage for 3 weeks, I wanted something hardy. The Azaro's were absolutely
    perfect too.

    I honestly can't speak highly enough of those fucking hoops and I will be
    getting them again.

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    Beav, Feb 28, 2009
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