Michelin Macadam vs Pilot

Oh fount of all knowledge that is embodied in UKRM - I humbly beseech
you for wise council

I've an R1150R and been running Michelin Macadam on front & rear (170/60
ZR17) and now need a replacement on the back. I guess the obvious
choice would be to replace like for like, but the Michelin web site
recommends the Pilot Road or Pilot Sport

Anyone had any experience with this tyre - I need something that's not
going to square off badly as I teach CBT, this means I spend a lot of
time very upright between 20 and 40 mph, however once off duty, have
been known to put the engine on the deck and don't want anything to let go.

Thanks

GM

(R1150R)

 

I used Pilot Road2s on my Triumph Daytona and haven't a bad word to say
about them. Grip was fine wet or dry (I never fell off) and the rear
lasted about 8K miles before I had to replace it just before I sold it
to Nige. It didn't square off, it just wore out evenly.

--
Lozzo
New bike (arrives Friday)
Fireblade 929 (For sale)
ZX-7R P4 (for sale)
CBR600F-W trackbike
SR250 SpazzTrakka,
RD400F, somewhere
I see a bright new future, where chickens can cross the road with no
fear of having their motives questioned

 

8k? golly that's going some.

 

I'd have to echo our Mr Lozzo on this. Avon Azaro's (or their latest equiv).

I wanted tyres for a Euro and Scandinavia trip and didn't want sometihng
that would wear out in 3000 miles and Loz recommended the Azaro's. Fully
loaded with camping gear and everything a bloke would need for a three week
trip, they were basically unmarked after 3000 miles and there were
absolutely no grip issues. Rained constantly for the first 2000 miles and
the sun was melting tarmac for the other 2 thousand on the trip. Back in
England for the rest of the tyre mileage.

The back tyre lasted 7000 miles before I "blued" it by overheating it and
decided it'd had enough. The front still had a good 3 or 4000 miles left on
it too.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

Unfortunately the later Avon Storms don't wear as well as the previous
incarnations, the Azaro 3 AV45/46 combination. I wish I could still lay
my hands on AV45/46s for the new bike when the original Dunlops wear
out.

--
Lozzo
New bike (arrives Friday)
Fireblade 929 (For sale)
ZX-7R P4 (for sale)
CBR600F-W trackbike
SR250 SpazzTrakka,
RD400F, somewhere
I see a bright new future, where chickens can cross the road with no
fear of having their motives questioned

 

My rear tyre lasted about 10-12k. But I am a bit slow so it didn't really
get much hammer.

--
Malc

Rusted and ropy.
Dog-eared old copy.
Vintage and classic,
or just plain Jurassic:
all words to describe me.

 

Wear rate is not a factor in buying tyres of that type.

--
Lozzo
New bike (arrives Friday)
Fireblade 929 (For sale)
ZX-7R P4 (for sale)
CBR600F-W trackbike
SR250 SpazzTrakka,
RD400F, somewhere
I see a bright new future, where chickens can cross the road with no
fear of having their motives questioned

 

Continental Road Attacks work well on my R1150 - I ditched the semi trail
style tyre for pukka sport touring jobbies.

They have a very deep tread so should last well on your teaching job.

They were very keenly price compared to Michelin & Bridgestone
alternatives.

 

The VFR is similar to the R1150R in that it's lardy, old-fashioned, not very
powerful, and spends its time being ridden slowly in an upright position. I
got 10K miles out of a set of Azaro STs. These have been replaced with
Storm STs, which also seem nice and durable.

If I was teaching CBT, I'd be using a CG125, just to show them how it was
done.

 

I don't trust Azaro's in the wet on a powerful bike,

Much too easy to spin up the rear, even when being careful on the
throttle.

Never had the same issue with 020's ...

P.

 

<fx: trembles at the word 'Macadam'>

I think it's fairly well documented on here just how much I hate
these.

P.

 

Dunno whether my Sprint counts as powerful? Had 020's[1] on it at first,
and moved to Azzaros on the consensus here. Much more sorted, and
certainly haven't managed to spin the rear[2].

[1]Also had them on the Triple, and they seemed *much* better.
[2] NB I do ride like a frilly girl.


--
Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2
Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

 

I agree - the CG is an awesome 125 - totally indestructible, However
it's a good idea to have something with a bit more road presence to get
between the student and white van man/taxi/Mrs schoolrun in her 4x4.
None of whom seem to understand what L plates, Hi-vis vests etc are
there for... (How many times have I heard them say "Sorry, didn't
realise they were students" - s'pose it's good practice for 'em

Back to the tyres - looks like the Pilot for me - don't want to mix the
Michelin front with an Avon rear.

Thanks to all

GM

 

I'm a huge fan of the Pilot Road 2CT. They don't square off in daily
commuting, the grip like a gecko to superglue in most conditions and
they get warm quickly.

 

I had exactly the reverse of this on the ZRX. 020's spin up, Azaros
don't.

You did up the pressure in the rear to 42PSI when switching to Azaros,
didn't you?

 

I use[d] Road Attacks on the Bandit. Just replaced the front with a
ContiMotion. Seems good so far with the part worn RA rear.

I use the bike for CBT/DAS/Post test/commuting/communting[1] and occasional
track day hoonage.

Flicking through a back issue of Bike recently, they had a tyre test for big
traillies and the Contis came out with top honours.

Indeed. That formed a large part in my purchasing decision.

[1] Commute to work, steady away. All day teaching. Ride like a **** on the
way back to rid oneself of cobwebs and induce a silly grin.

 

What is this tyre pressure you speak of. ?

If the rim's a fair distance from the road, it's good to go ..

P.

 

You're going about it the wrong way - all that the hi-viz stuff says is
"please don't hurt me". A Craft helmet, an MA-1 jacket in a nice DPM
colour, and a strong de-emphasis on silencing would give an entirly
different message.

 

Just the opposite for me, I trusted the Azaros on my last ZZR1100 and a
few other bikes since to just grip and get on with it, the 020s I'd had
in the past always had me feeling nervous. Also, the 020s squared off
badly and wrecked the handling in short order, the Azaros would wear
but never really made the bike feel much worse when they were down to
1mm, which took a damn sight longer to get to than any 020 I ever
bought.

--
Lozzo
New bike (arrives Friday)
Fireblade 929 (For sale)
ZX-7R P4 (for sale)
CBR600F-W trackbike
SR250 SpazzTrakka,
RD400F, somewhere
I see a bright new future, where chickens can cross the road with no
fear of having their motives questioned

 

Agreed about the wear as well.

--
Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2
Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk