Don't stop off at dealers on Sunday bimble. Those ST4s are rather nice, aren't they? Like, surprisingly pleasing on the eye, and I bet they go well enough. *twitch* However, I think I have my eye on a cheaper bit of touring kit - http://tinyurl.com/cnss74. I don't think it's cheap enough for one of those though, even with the luggage. It's nine years old, 38K, and my understanding is that Triumph's second-hand prices should be incredibly low as people get a shock when they try to sell them on Ebay and get zero bids. -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 1993 Eunos Roadster (supercharged) Could want: something more comfy, sprots or not Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
I'm not sure the last statement is correct. It seems that Trumpet are really holding their own when it comes to prices. Very little recession or depreciation seems much in evidence. I might be talking out my arse, but that's what I see and hear. -- Greybeard FLHR -03 UK (95 cu-in Stg 2. Big Boy 2!) Garmin Zumo 550, To get me home! ukrm@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk
Overlooking the terrible grammar and spelling in the text, I would not consider buying a bike from a dealer who chooses to describe a nine year old bike, with 38,000 miles on the odometer, using the phrase, "runs like new".
Too old, too many miles and too much money. Mine's a 2002 and I'd take a grand less -- Dan L Too much time to think, too little to do. http://thebikeshed.spaces.live.com/ 2002 Triumph Sprint RS 955i (It's big, and it's black) 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr (Gone, but not forgotten) BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6/7/8) X-FOT#000 DIAABTCOD #26 BOMB#18 (slow) OMF#11
It's priced about £700-800 above private prices. The kicker is the mileage - it should have had the major 36k service done. That's the really, really expensive one, like £800+. I'd want to see a proper service history, with the right stamp in the 36k box (not just the selling dealer's own one). And if it had it, I'd bid £2.4k. Oh, and I'd weant to know it has had the recall for the fuel line connector mod. Bloody nice bikes, though. I owned one, briefly.
It's not that over-priced. As SteveH found, trying to find a decent touring bike from this century under £2500 is not easy. He's ended up with some behemoth from eons ago. your's isn't an ST, so is worth less There was a £1000 price differential when new in 2000, and the online price guides say an RS should be £600 cheaper now. So, based on your valuation of your own bike, the ST should be about £2300. The sticker price doesn't seem to bad and is in line with the tradition of allowing the punter to haggle a bit.
'full datatool alarm fitted' 'saving you £380' How? - surely the only sane thing to do with that is to pay someone to remove it?
Different animal. He was looking for a full-on fatgut tourer like a Pan, K11, etc. This is more in the Honda VFR/Yamaha ThunderAce line. More or less how I read it - my price was £2.4k, as you'll have seen. But only, only, only if it has had the full 36k service done.
Oh cheers mate. Look, it's a Triumph, it's a Sprint and it's got an "S". I would have thrown in a set of throwovers and some bungees to make it full touring trim ;-) Actually, I would have thought around that sort of price for an ST, I did notice the big difference in the prices of the 2 models when I got mine. That one's a bit leggy mind, although a couple of the RS's which appeared on my radar had big miles on too. -- Dan L Too much time to think, too little to do. http://thebikeshed.spaces.live.com/ 2002 Triumph Sprint RS 955i (It's big, and it's black) 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr (Gone, but not forgotten) BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6/7/8) X-FOT#000 DIAABTCOD #26 BOMB#18 (slow) OMF#11
@mid.individual.net: 38k in 9 years is not leggy IMV. Just over 4k a year. That equates to my useage of the R-GS. Enough miles to warrant a service every year. A long trip every year or two which is a big incentive to replace any marginal components such as leaky seals, spongey brakes etc. Compare that with the bike that does 2k a year, has a service once every 3 years and gets left in the garage if it needs money spending on it. Or the bike with starship mileage that has been wound back to 18k...
Paging Steve - was your search in ukrm and if so could you direct me to a URL? Yebbut do they mean anything? I sometimes look at Parkers - sometimes they are high, sometimes they are low, which makes them hard to take seriously. -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 1993 Eunos Roadster (supercharged) Could want: something more comfy, sprots or not Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
I have to tell you, I'm definitely going more down the latter's route, but if a nice Pan came up for similar money, I might look. I'll get my pipe and slippers, shall I? Good, well-priced Thunderaces are quite rare, VFRs are just a little boring[1], whereas the ST has the interesting triple engine, and the hard luggage is a bonus for sure as it costs a fortune aftermarket. But I'm trying not to be too fussy - you can whack soft luggage on an R1 FFS. I suppose like a house, sometimes you just see a bike and it's just right, even if it's not what you set out for. Like that ST4 I saw today. I'm just looking in a fairly chilled way, for something around the 2-2.5K mark that's roomier than my NC30 and still good and still[2]... [1] But I'm sure they're excellent, certainly better than my riding capability etc yadda. [2] As I implied before, sometimes you can't even describe it in words - you just know you want it. -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 1993 Eunos Roadster (supercharged) Could want: something more comfy, sprots or not Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
"I'll take it for asking if you remove the alarm." -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 1993 Eunos Roadster (supercharged) Could want: something more comfy, sprots or not Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
Bugger. WTF is in the schedule at 36k? Entire engine replacement? That would bring it in budget, I guess. I assume a call to Triumph can sort that out. -- TD 1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red) 1993 Eunos Roadster (supercharged) Could want: something more comfy, sprots or not Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica, Lardy tourer
It's a shim job, and ISTR a complete overhaul of the FI system. All fluids including brake, all filters. Things like chains, brakes and tyres are extra, obviously. A mate was looking at a similar bike recently, and just over 36k miles, and I advised him to check with the seller re the service. No, it hadn't been done. I said I'd be able to help him with all the basics, and suggested he contacted Carl Rosner for the price of just a shim and FI job. Even that came in at close to £500. Seriously, this is why a lot of Sprints are sold around this mileage.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-BMW-K1100LT-RED_W0QQitemZ290303529596 -- Steve Parry BMW R80RS, 03 BMW R1100S Boxercup, 07 K1200GT SE 95 BMW F650, 87 Yamaha FS1, Sukida SK90PY, 91 Kawasaki AR50, BMW 330Ci www.gwynfryn.co.uk
So? There's ****-all point in posting details of bikes for sale on Ebay, as a price guide, since all the significant bidding happens in the last 60 seconds. Search for 'completed auctions' instead. That gives a real idea.
Indeed - almost every K1100LT on eBay recently has gone for silly money in the last few minutes of bidding.
