~~~~~~~~The common good can be provided for at the local level once people don't have 50%+ of their earnings confiscated each year (more when you consider the layers of taxation rolled into the price of each product on the shelves). Think of the released wealth the economy would have if everyone got a 100% (or more) increase in pay over night while their goods and services dropped in price by 50%! Freedom is an exciting concept. Some people fear it. Next question. -- Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ your point is understandable.....when you §ay 50%plus above, my my, you must be in the higher of high, income Bracket.. I think, most of us common folks are in the 15%+ bracket, so when you imply that most americans are experiencing another 35% along the way, to take care of their families etc......man...I don't know about that.....in essence. <>Happy Holidays<>Bjay,.
X-No-archive: yes Duress does not a valid contract make. -- Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org "Some days I feel like I'm limping away from the scene of a terrible accident that left my youth by the side of the road in a tangled, smoking heap." - Jerry Smith
X-No-archive: yes Look beyond the end of your nose. Taxes are cumulative. DO you really think the cost of that 25 cent loaf is bread is based solely on the cost to grow, harvest and process the materials and pay the wages of those doing that work? Look at ALL the taxes you pay; not just the obvious income taxes. The cumulative total is high enough that my 50% claim was probably conservative.
Your just thinking of Income Tax. Add sales tax, all the gas taxes, taxes to all the food services, don't forget the deeds and property tax (apartment renters add in that cost too) and everything else you purchase you may well see 50%. BTW a current bill filed by the legislation would include State Income Tax.
ROTFL.. Can't resist this one... uh.. uh... ummm... Good thing some of these usenet clowns weren't around back then, huh.. Elmer ?
~~~~someone else said this:....Without compensation? Look around. We live in the best country in the world, and all the things we take for granted cost money. ~~~~~~~~~~not sure who?~~~~~~~ The point is that the things we purchase and take for granted are not the same thing as those which others purchase with funds confiscated from our labor without choice and under threat of death or serious punishment. ~~MarkJohnson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Duress does not a valid contract make. -- Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Okay, alright, I feel good about it now, uh'preciate your Google.com answer.....thanx <>Happy Holidays<>Bjay,.
ßjay john§oñ wrote~~~~~The common good can be provided for at the local level once people don't have 50%+ of their earnings confiscated each year (more when you consider the layers of taxation rolled into the price of each product on the shelves). Think of the released wealth the economy would have if everyone got a 100% (or more) increase in pay over night while their goods and services dropped in price by 50%! Freedom is an exciting concept. Some people fear it. Next question. mark johnson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Look beyond the end of your nose. Taxes are cumulative. DO you really think the cost of that 25 cent loaf is bread is based solely on the cost to grow, harvest and process the materials and pay the wages of those doing that work? Look at ALL the taxes you pay; not just the obvious income taxes. The cumulative total is high enough that my 50% claim was probably conservative. -- Mark Johnson, Ft. Worth, TX ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ First at the top, it appears that I wrote all this...don't want folks to think that, not that there's anything wrong with that!!!(Seinfeld quote)(Grin) <>Yes, that's exactly what I thought a loaf of bread cost, except, you left out insurances etc.....but that's neither here or there, We 15%+ bracket common folks, don't experience another 35%...to add up to 50%......it just ain'† †ha† wa¥.! Mark, I'm too old, to not realize Taxes can accumalate...of course.....but not like you tell it......some of those taxes can be self governed....Don't buy shit, if you dont have the cash, don't use credit cards, don't buy new vehicles, motorcyles, and lots of other big dollar stuff, AND have to PAY that sales Tax.....the last Bike I bought I saved $300, on sales tax...cause I didnt buy it from a dealer.....how about that. Go to Estate Sales, learn to be thrifty...on and on.....(but, youngens have trouble with waiting and saving) <>Happy Holidays<>Bjay,.
See, Mark, by you not properly ''cut/copy/&pasteing....Even Elmer thinks I wrote what you (really) wrote.... Elmer, is chewing me out, and he should be chewing you out (chuckle) ...GO look at a response from Elmer, you'll see..huh It's your fault....heehee....grinning <>Happy Holidays<>Bjay,.
Yeah, and here's an idea: Why don't you continue to sit on your fat ass and not support groups trying to eliminate and reduce tax? Why don't you sit in your comfy home and shine your guns while the big boys go out and keep Texas from becoming another "State Income Tax" populace? Don't worry, we'll continue to support your welfare programs that you continue to enjoy and sponge off of. We'll make sure that you're able to keep a pistol...even though you might have to pay income taxes to the state.
LOL.. Elmer has been around forever, Bjay.. He's another one of the good guys.. He knows exactly who posted that crap.. Your friend in Irving Bill Walker