Mechanical speedo converters.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by T i m, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Hi all,

    I Google stumbled on those little in-line mechanical speedo converters
    the other day. Working on the assumption that we aren't lucky enough
    to get the tidy Mph marked dash[1] for someone's Piaggio Skipper
    that's awaiting the verdict of an insurance company at our local
    dealers, that the converter might be an easy way to do the job
    (Daughters bike is marked Kph only with some randomly applied shitty
    MPH stickers).

    I *think* I have the choice (enough space) of the top or bottom
    fitting one but wondered:

    Do they do what they say on the tin (not had an import bike before).

    Would there be an advantage to top or bottom fitting if I have the
    room for either?

    All the best ..

    T i m

    [1] They said we could have it for 20 quid (IF they get to keep the
    bike). I can get a converter for 25 ..?
     
    T i m, Dec 21, 2007
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  2. T i m

    T i m Guest

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    T i m, Dec 21, 2007
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  3. Yes. They're not wildly accurate, mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 21, 2007
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  4. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Ok, so maybe worth a punt and if the real thing does eventually come
    along (a mph speedo), I can stick it in me bits box?
    Oh, ok. Are you saying they aren't a good mathematical division (kph >
    mph) or that because of how they work it somehow effects the accuracy
    of the speedo mech etc?

    I mean, given that they *are* the right divider ratio (~1.6:1 is it?)
    and that they run smoothly (so they don't cause the speedo to
    fluctuate) wouldn't it then be just down to the speedo anyway?

    I guess the speedo mech won't be spinning as fast so won't cover as
    wide a rage as it might previously so is less accurate. Is that
    something to do with it, like when using an analogue multimeter?

    Whatever the outcome it can't be worse than the shitty stickers
    (potentially huge parallax error to start with)!

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Dec 21, 2007
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  5. Well, speedos aren't that accurate to start with, and the relatively
    small number of gear teeth on the convertors, and the fact that they
    aren't machined too finely, allows more error to creep in. Could just as
    well creep in in the 'right' direction, mind. But they're certainly
    'good enough'.
    True.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 22, 2007
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  6. T i m

    Eiron Guest

    NAHAY? The Older Gentleman's mathematical skills are legendary.
    A reduction gear of 18/29 would underread by 0.1%, which is accurate
    enough for anybody. What gears they actually put in a converter could
    be completely different though.
    How do you calculate the ratio of an epicyclic gearbox? More caffeine
    required!
     
    Eiron, Dec 22, 2007
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  7. Which is what I've just said. But remember, as I pointed out, you do
    need accurate gear machining for accurate readings to be achieved. Which
    you're unlikely to find in a £5.99 widget.
    Quite
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 22, 2007
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  8. T i m

    Eiron Guest

    What are you smoking? Accurate machining doesn't come into it.
    Just count the teeth. If it's not worn enough to start jumping
    it will work as designed.
     
    Eiron, Dec 22, 2007
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  9. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Agreed, that looks pretty good to me. Thinking on what the old boy
    said though it could (also) be an issue re the reduction of the
    speedo needle movement when used with the converter. It'll move
    18/29ths of its original design so will be compressed anyway hence
    less easy to read 'detail'. In the real world it will (should) be much
    better in a general readability sense so better than what's there
    right now! [1]
    Ok ..
    Pass and awww, is it a baby epicyclic .. cute ;-)
    Indeed! ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m

    [1] I was going to do some GPS guided on road calibration, strip the
    dash down and get the Letraset out .. and still might if it all goes
    belly up.
     
    T i m, Dec 22, 2007
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  10. T i m

    T i m Guest

    FWIW they are about 30 notes and *look* nicely made / engineered?

    http://www.worldofpower.co.uk/acatalog/Speed_Convertoers.html

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Dec 22, 2007
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  11. *Shrug*

    OK, if you say so.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 22, 2007
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  12. T i m

    Dave Emerson Guest

    I had an aussie Ford Falcon XR6 (a bit like a Cosworth on steroids, with a
    4L engine and lots of Tickford goodies) fitted with one of these converters.

    The result was pretty accurate with an indicated 70mph being an actual 68mph
    according to a gps on a straight road.

    It also had the added advantage as the speed restrictor is factory-set at
    240kph (~150mph) and the pick-up is in the speedo head, so with the
    converter fitted it wouldn't cut-in until 240mph; though I only ever got an
    indicated 176 on a hi-speed test track.
     
    Dave Emerson, Dec 22, 2007
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