MAX BIAGGI/APRILIA RSV4 ONYA!

Yeah--that Troy Bayliss is a ****...

Mean and Hurtful Pat

 

13 GP wins is "could never cut it" is it?

Sure he was beaten by Gods like Doohan and Rossi but he was at least as
good as the rest of the top-runners (and better then most of them!)

 

Gave us the aquaducts?

Theo

 

Rossi has arguably the best GP racing record ever and Doohan has the 3rd
or maybe 4th best all time results.

Biaggi is probably as good as many 500cc/moto GP champions who competed
in times without such competition.

Doesn't mean he doesn't come across as an annoying, media unfriendly guy
who appears to have a real nasty streak.


G-S

 

Yeah--that Troy Bayliss is a ****...

Mean and Hurtful Pat
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And don't get Pat started on Weary Dunlop or Mother Theresa!

 

I beat you by a day! Who are you, Max Biaggi? ;-)


BTH

 

Was that the guy from "top gear"? It probably made for a better story to
have him spout on about F1 cars being piss-easy to drive then have an F1
team offer a drive to put him in his place, but for some reason I suspect
the drive day was arranged well in advance...


BTH

 

How many world championships did that equate to then?

For that matter how many years was he at it in the 500s and later on in the
Moto GP?

I never said he wasn't capable but to paraphrase a pretty ordinary American
movie his mouth kept writing cheques that his ability couldn't cash. One
thing that distingiushed the great champions from riders who were just
capable was the lack of excuses when things didn't go right.

"If I had equal machinery to Doohan I could beat him."
"If I had equal; machinery to Rossi I could beat him."

Honda gave him that equal machinery on two occasions and he didn't do it.
QED

 

None in the 500s (obviously). If you only rate championships then I
guess you must be a fan of Criville, Hayden and KRJR while reckoning
Mamola, Barros, Capirossi etc have had worthless careers.
Hell; 13 is about twice what KRJR & Hayden won together!

Only a fool would pretend that 4 consecutive 250 championships is
nothing though.

Dunno. Can't you look it up yourself?

"He could never cut it" ... sounds pretty similar to me.

But he cashed those cheques at least 13 times! (Including his very first
race on "identical machinery")
He was never on the same team as Doohan or Rossi so there's no proof he
had anything like the same bikes or access to the same information and
equipment.
(And even people on the same TEAM as Rossi never seem to get the same
equipment or access to the same infgormation as him).

Horseshit!
Honda gave him a bike that looked the same and had the same name.
Probably only the head of HRC would've know if they were the same or
not. (Certainly not some biased and overopinionated fan from far-off
Australia!)
Q.E.Dont.

Sure he wasn't popular (in the 500s. He was ENORMOUSLY popular in the
250s) and he rubbed people the wrong way but you're a mug if you think
he's not a top rider.

 

Hampster. He couldn't drive the thing fast enough to keep the tyres on
temp.

Bill

 

Which was the premier class of the day.

Not at all, I had a lot of time for Mamola as a rider, he was certainly far
more capable of handling a bike than some of his later colleagues. But
still he was around at the time of some outstanding riders like Roberts Sr,
Lawson, Gardner and Doohan. To a certain extent he was unlucky but then you
could also say a champion makes his own luck too.

Which says more about them than it does about Max.

Oh it wasn't nothing, but it wasn't the top level of his sport either.

Can't say I care enough to.

Well that's your misinterpritation.

Like I said, he was capable, just not a champion.

Given that he received a full factory backed NSR500 with Erv Kanemoto as
team boss it would seem that he did.

Don't know about that one, you could be correct there.

I quite enjoyed the GPs back in the earlier times from the late 70s to the
early 90s but I would hardly consider myself a fan, even an
"overopinionated" one. I just find overly arrogent competitors who don't
back their claims up with genuine results and make pissweak excuses for
their own failings a bit of a joke.

Whatever you think, sufficed to say I don't share your enthusiasm for the
git.

 

Fine; just don't keep trying to pretend that your silly biased
popularist posts are fact.
(Hint; "in my opinion...")

 

Fact: He never won a 500cc or MotoGP world championship.
Fact: He made claims that he could match at least two multiple world
champions in that class.
Fact: He didn't back up the claims he made with results (i.e. matching the
achevements of the aforementioned multiple world champions.)
Fact: He abandoned (or was booted out, it depends on your point of view) the
top level of his chosen sport.

In my opinion he is an arrogant git that never lived up to his own promises.
An opinion that would appear to be backed up by citable facts (except the
git part, that's my personal assesment). If you prefer to ignore the facts
then you could say my opinion was silly and biased. I happen to believe you
are incorrect in your assesment primarily because of your own bias toward
the man.

 

*Irrelevant* fact yes. (And already covered umpteen times)

More irrelevant "facts" (especially the one about the "claims").
Even if true; why would you imagine any of this adds up to "he couldn't
cut it at the top level"?

Yaay; a genuine fact! In your opinion your opinion is correct.
*Congratulations*!

If these "facts" are citable, why not cite them; let's see transcripts
including context, dates and locations for these "facts" so we know
you're not just being silly and biased?