This does: [URL]http://www.motorcyclenews.com/nav?page=motorcyclenews.articles.articleCategory.article&resourceId=1014407&articleCategory=NEWS_OTHER-NEWS[/URL] The director of the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety Robert Gifford, who was quoted in a referred article here the other day, has been "interviewed" by MCN, after claiming that: "Improving motorcyclists skills merely means they kill themselves in a more skilled way" When put to proof he states that "Cars with ABS are involved in as many accidents as cars that aren't." I'd love to see his figures for that ... But when MCN suggest that ABS isn't a skill, but a mechanical operation - he puts the phone down on the interviewer. Bloke's a cunt, innhe? (Thanks to Corin from SUKBOG for the url)