Magnetic fuel "conditioner"

Every time my son drives a car into a repair
shop, a pretty good milking usually follows.

 

The pentane rings in the gasoline in our tanks were broken in the
refinery...

It just seems to me that there might be some similiarity between
magnetism and heat energy that a layman might understand before
coffeee in the morning...

 

huh... I would have thought an orgone generator more appropriate.
<shrugs> oh well, wrong again...<meat splat>

 

I dunno, wouldn't Henry be a better conversationalist AND less likely
to steal your money, ID etc.

 

That's the "and stay alive..." clause. ;-)

People used to think I had a hard-on when I was climbing over my
5.1-Tesla solenoid to refill the liquid helium. It was actually just my
Swiss Army Knife trying to escape down the magnet's bore.

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I understand it's all in hand. Different days see different GANTT
charts, but it seems like September is a safe enough bet. Bit of a pity,
as we almost certainly won't get enough Higgs-discovery data before _next_
winter's shutdown. But with a bit of luck and a following wind, 2010 should
be a good year for data taking.

Like it, though the ecologists here would probably prefer it to be
grey squirrels[1]. Geneva still has a fair population of red squirrels.
luckily.

[1] Major potato chip/crisp manufacturer here recently had a competition
to suggest new flavours; IIRC the winners get 1% of the takings from their
flavours. One of the six winners was "Cajun squirrel"!

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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

Ah, but have you ever pressed them into service as Boot Magnets,
guaranteed to trigger inductive loops when the traffic lights just _won't_
change for a mere motorcycle?

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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

Oh, come on! Are you really going to go up against at least
eighteen years of rec.motorcycles wisdom?

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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
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WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

Magnetism, at least the sort you can safely carry around with you, won't affect
those loops. Strapping an equal size block of any other metal to your boot
would do just as well. Putting the side stand down on the loop works well, if
you can see the cuts in the road surface.

One of my campground guests installs these loops in Canada and he explained the
whole thing to me. I have it somewhere in an email. I can post it here if
anybody is interested but this is one of those things that get hashed to death
here frequently.

 

Only when you're headed north and south at the same time.

 

<VVBG>

 

So what? Magnets on fuel lines are a waste of time. Fraud. Snake oil.
Junk. Throwing money away. They do nothing. Acheve nothing. Improve
nothing. They have *absolutely no effect* and deliver *absolutely no
benefit*.

Trying to argue that they do *something* is stupid.

 

So now you're trying to stay on the topic of magnetic fuel
conditioners, instead of going off in all nitpicking directions?

I'm trying to explore the effects of *magnetism in general*, to see
what it would take to for a magnet to break up a hydrocarbon molecule.

While there doesn't seem to be much data about the dangerous of
constant exposure to *static* magnetic fields, the US Congress and WHO
Recommended limit for constant human exposure is 2 mG (200
nanotesla).

One site recommended that people with pacemakers avoid being around
intense magnetic fields.

One site said that the recommended limit for humans exposed to
*electrostatic* fields as 25kv/m^2.

The old standby Wikipedia (which you despise so much), says:

"The Earth's magnetic field measures about 0.5 gauss, a small iron
magnet has a field of about 100 gauss, a small neodymium-iron-boron
(NIB) magnet has a field of about 2,000 gauss, a big electromagnet has
a field of about 15,000 gauss, and the surface of a neutron star has a
field of about 1012 gauss."

I'm reasonably certain that a neutron star could cause long-chain
hydrocarbon fuel molecules to break up, but if a 6 tesla supermagnet
in a physics lab doesn't kill a frog, what *would it take* to disrupt
its molecules?

 

<snip>

You don't have the brainpower to assimilate it. Ivan does.

 

Then let *Ivan* do the talking, so you can figure out if you're
impressed enough to
give him a blowie afterwards.

 

<Shakes head>

How can generations of breeding produce something as stupid as you?

 

You'd need O(5 eV) energy over O(0.2 nm) to break a hydrocarbon
bond. Not sure how you propose to generate this with a magnetic field...

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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
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WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

(Hans-Christian Becker) wrote in

It is not a legend. A friend told me that having metal in your body (pins
in the spine in his case) is very painful when they turn up the magnetic
field too high.