Lying to an insurance company

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Stuart, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. Stuart

    Damien Guest

    When I was at uni first time around (shit, that's getting to be quite
    some time ago now, I hope that doesn't I'm getting old!), I used to
    deliver pizzas. So I was burning through a fair amount of petrol, and
    topping up on a fairly regular basis. This was good, because it meant
    that the servo guys knew me well, and knew where I worked etc, and so
    when I drove off one day after forgetting all about paying, the
    attendant didn't worry because he knew I'd be back to pay later. Which
    I was, and rather embarrassed about it too, lol.

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Jan 23, 2007
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  2. Stuart

    Damien Guest

    Well, you do engage in an implied contract of sorts when you take the
    handle and start pumping petrol into your car, so if you then do a
    runner that's certainly deception since you obviously never intended
    to follow through on the commitment you made to pay for the petrol you
    were going to use. So it does make sense when it is categorised as
    fraud, rather than outright theft.

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Jan 23, 2007
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  3. Stuart

    Mad-Biker Guest

    ive had servos winge about that, ive told them, its your mistake not theirs!

    service stations have a stupid policy, if you have a drive off, report it to
    the police, with the details of the vehicle

    or it comes out of your pay.

    so we have a whole bunch of rocket scientists working for servos who like to
    lie to police!
     
    Mad-Biker, Jan 23, 2007
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  4. Stuart

    Damien Guest

    Well, they are certainly pretending to be a bona fide customer so they
    can obtain the petrol first, and then skipping out, so I'd say that's
    deception for sure.

    It's a bit different to "normal" shoplifting. A shoplifter has not
    necessarily declared any intention to actually buy anything at all -
    simply taking an item off the shelf and walking around with might
    suggest you're thinking about buying it, but since you could easily
    still just put it down at any point, you have not yet made any real
    declaration of intent at all, only of consideration. It is only when
    you front up at the counter and offer payment that such a declaration
    is made - and since the average shoplifter doesn't do that, but simply
    scarpers with the goods (having made no declaration of intent to
    purchase), there is no implied contract of sale to breach and no
    declaration to renege on - they've simply stolen the goods.

    Maybe it is just technicalities, but it does make sense if you look at
    it from the right angle.

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Jan 23, 2007
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  5. Stuart

    Mad-Biker Guest

    nope, thats a strait out larceny.

    when you pick up a can of beans, that doesnt mean your going to buy it.

    putting petrol in your car does, coz ya cant put it back!
     
    Mad-Biker, Jan 23, 2007
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  6. Stuart

    Hammo Guest

    Works well for gas too, eh?

    Hammo


     
    Hammo, Jan 24, 2007
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  7. Stuart

    Mad-Biker Guest

    dont try and convince me, convince the parlament responcibly for the crimes
    act of 1900!

    this is how it is, i didnt make it that way.
     
    Mad-Biker, Jan 24, 2007
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  8. Stuart

    Mad-Biker Guest

    GB - sold as child sex slavery

    boy for sale, 5 cents!
     
    Mad-Biker, Jan 24, 2007
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  9. Stuart

    Hammo Guest

    No, you don't.

    Hose to transfer is the least of your concerns. Refer to Le Chatleir's
    principle.

    Also, you need to maintain it as saleable commodity.

    You are more than likely going to get black banned for OHS.

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Jan 24, 2007
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  10. Stuart

    Goaty Guest

    Having worked in the field, I can vouch for the existance of those data
    "swap meets" that people talk about ... regardless of privacy laws[1].

    They do not let much in the way of accuracy mar their enthusiasm for
    matching - one of the reasons I favour a national identity card. We had
    one in 1974 and no one noticed. :)

    Cheers
    Goaty
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    Goaty, Jan 25, 2007
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