Losing patience with mechanics - who can I trust in melb?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Steve Dougherty, Jan 6, 2005.

  1. Steve Dougherty

    sharkey Guest

    This tree smells like Hamish!

    Where's you bin?

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jan 6, 2005
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  2. Steve Dougherty

    Knobdoodle Guest

    X-No-archive: yes
    ~
    KFC will do that!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Jan 6, 2005
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  3. Steve Dougherty

    GB Guest

    Amen!

    Mentioned to a couple of folks the other day that my new bike
    is due for a service and asked a couple of specific questions
    about bits. They got all "Take it to someone, don't try it
    yourself" on my arse. I just don't understand that sort of
    attitude!

    *sigh* The mind boggles. Why only a couple of months ago, I
    stumbled across a feller who had taken his new-ish car to
    a dealer for a major-ish service after having missed a
    minor-ish service. The dealer charged him full price for
    *two* services, and the guy just swallowed it... seemed to
    thing that this was somehow acceptable behaviour on the
    part of the dealer.


    Off hand, I think my questions were like this (anyone know
    answers?)

    - do I need to take that little plastic frame out of the
    front of the bellypan to get the oil filter out? (I guess
    I'll figure that out on the day, won't I!)

    - what kinda oil should I be using (circa 17,000Km on the
    clock now)

    - do I need to change plugs now? (They were last changed
    at the 12,000Km service)

    - is it *really* that hard to balance four carbies?


    - oh yeah, and any traps for young players with bleeding
    brakes (for the porpoise of a fluid change) on this
    bike? (1996 yzf1000rj)

    - Someone (I think it might have been Pisshead) told me
    I need to split the cases to do a proper oil change.
    Is this true?

    G
     
    GB, Jan 6, 2005
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  4. Steve Dougherty

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Raise the bars a couple of inches or, if you prefer, 50 mm.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 7, 2005
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  5. maybe this one?

    http://www.mightymedia.com.au/~bigiain/bug_collecting/map.html

    Yeah, I took the boring way home that time...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Jan 7, 2005
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  6. Steve Dougherty

    sharkey Guest

    I asked Redwing for a discount because the VTR was getting a
    major service, chain, sprocks, rear tyre and RWC all at
    the same time. They did the work, decided how much time
    it'd saved, and gave me a nice discount. There's no harm
    in asking.
    Probably not then.
    Never tried 4 myself. There is a knack to it, but reasonably
    cack-handed friends have got reasonable results.
    Don't get any air in in the first place ... put a bit of tube
    on the bleed nipple _before_ you open it. Then just pump
    fluid through, keeping the level in the reservoir up so that
    no air is drawn in. Once the fluid is coming out nice and
    clear on all nipples, you're done. If it's really filthy,
    do it again a couple of weeks later.
    Of course! A case is four six-packs, should get you through
    nicely.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jan 7, 2005
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  7. Steve Dougherty

    sharkey Guest

    Yeah, you needed to turn off at Wodonga to go via
    Buffalo, Whitfield, Mansfield or else at MoE to go
    via either Noojee or Mirboo! But I'll forgive you
    just this once :)

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jan 7, 2005
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  8. Steve Dougherty

    Dale Porter Guest

    We take our bikes to New World Honda in Narre Warren/Berwick, not far from Fountain Gate Shopping
    Centre. Had nothing but good dealings with their service department so far.
     
    Dale Porter, Jan 7, 2005
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  9. Steve Dougherty

    Dale Porter Guest

    I won't name names, but there's a bike mechanic a few doors up from PS in Dandenong that is
    shiteful. Very shoddy work. I'd suggest don't be tempted to try them.

    For one example (out of a few) we once had fork seals replaced by them on a CB250 - a month or so
    later they started leaking. Took the bike to New World Honda and they were able to name the
    mechanics that did it just by looking at the poor workmanship. :-/
     
    Dale Porter, Jan 7, 2005
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  10. Steve Dougherty

    Batfastard Guest

    Ahh - YZF1000R - good choice of weapon.
    You'll need to take the bellypan off anyways i think you'll find.
    Hey! An 'Oil' thread. Funny how these seem to pop up all over the
    place.

    I've found that premium diesel engine oil seems to work OK - the logic
    behind using diesel oil is that:

    1. It's made to withstand a high degree of gear shear for big-rig
    engines (similar to bike gearboxes?);
    2. Comparatively high level of Disbursants ('Detergent' being a bit of
    a mis-nomer) to help keep the insides squeaky-clean of sooty
    particles;
    3. They also seem to be pretty much free of 'friciton modifiers' which
    don't work well with wet clutches.

    The secret is to change your Dino oil often (every 3000kms is a good
    start) and you can avoid the expense of full synth.

    Try one of the major brands first (Shell or Mobil? I've heard good
    stuff about Delo, but haven't seen it around) and see how your gears
    shift with it. If it's a bit crunchy in the gear change, try a
    different brand. My last change I used the Valvoline Premium Diesel
    and it seems OK so far, but the Thunderarse gearbox requires a bit of
    technique (at least mine does).
    Wouldn't bother unless you're having problems - they're a bastard to
    get to. Maybe at 20 000kms.
    Got the tools? go for it.
    Brakes on the YZF are easier than the clutch I reckon - the fact that
    the clutch Master Cyl. has a built-in air pocket complicates matters.
    Make sure you don't run your master cylinder dry and you should be OK.
    BUT watch for dripping brake fluid on that nice matt-black dashboard.
    OB-viously! ;-) You'll also need some Silvo to polish the insides of
    the crankcases to make sure you get rid of ALL the old oil.

    BF.
     
    Batfastard, Jan 7, 2005
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  11. Steve Dougherty

    Rusty Guest

    I find this helps considerably. Also has the benefit of giving me a much
    better rear view in the mirror.
     
    Rusty, Jan 7, 2005
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  12. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:11:59 +1000
    Long long time ago, I rode the Devil (a 450 Ducati single) from Adelaide
    to Mt Gambier.

    The roads were very clear, and rather straight. We were pootling along
    at the limit more or less because the Devil isn't set up for speed but
    for the Adelaide Hills. 110kmh is about its limit.

    Several hours at 110kmh on a single that rattles your fillings out and
    with a riding position involving chin on the tank and hands at knee
    level can be... interesting.

    I screwed in the friction screw on the throttle so the throttle stayed
    open without my hand on it. Then I settled down with both forearms on
    the tank, and my hands about either side of the instrument pod and we
    rumbled along the road. What steering corrections that were needed were
    performed by tapping the instrument binnacle....


    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 7, 2005
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  13. Using modified fricitons may void your warranty.

    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jan 7, 2005
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  14. Steve Dougherty

    Peter Wyzl Guest

    :
    <snip the snips>


    : Using modified fricitons may void your warranty.

    Does not!

    P :)
     
    Peter Wyzl, Jan 7, 2005
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  15. Steve Dougherty

    Batfastard Guest

    I'll have you know that my friciton remains virginally pure, as it was
    when it left the factory..

    No warranty problems there!

    BF.
     
    Batfastard, Jan 7, 2005
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  16. Steve Dougherty

    Peter Wyzl Guest

    : On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:46:25 GMT, Zebee Johnstone <>
    wrote:
    : >I screwed in the friction screw on the throttle so the throttle stayed
    : >open without my hand on it. Then I settled down with both forearms on
    : >the tank, and my hands about either side of the instrument pod and we
    : >rumbled along the road. What steering corrections that were needed were
    : >performed by tapping the instrument binnacle....
    :
    : I like the idea that you've ridden a bike that has a 'binnacle'....

    I thought a binnacle grew on the bottom of ship in New Zealand....

    P
     
    Peter Wyzl, Jan 8, 2005
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  17. Huh, I usually say make sure you change all three oils, GB, but I'm with
    Sharkey!
     
    Pisshead Pete, Jan 19, 2005
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