Looks like TOG was right...

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Simian

I know for a fact it's been down during periods I've not been near it.

Sorry to offend your logic circuits.

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Oi, ****, that was the point I was leading to in my earlier post.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Simian

Read again what I wrote.

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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

My expectations would be skewed by the fact of it being a fairly
ShiteOldMachine and is more unreliable. The BoI network is a bit flaky
too (more than half of the failures were the machine display pointing
this out). It definitely ran out of cash a few times, but you expect
that on Bank Holidays - still counts as a failure though.

Anyway, as I said elsewhere, it was down when I wasn't there; so
Timo-like effects can be ruled out.

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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Simian

My own direct experience of this particular machine is about 5%
downtime. That, and others' experience of it make it more than 5%.

From what I can gather, the machine is probably offline or busted or
simply out of cash about 10% of the time.

Roughly, it's down about 30 days out of the year, so I'm not too far
off.

What's dumb about that? Apart from the dumb bastards who bought a crap
old machine to install in a busy wee market town. It got irritating,
since the next nearest machine was a good 15 miles away. In the past
year, the rival bank installed a machine (a much more modern one) of
their own in the neighbouring supermarket, which keeps normal
supermarket hours so I still find myself having to travel for cash on
occasion when the first machine is down.

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Well if it was down for 5% of your visits and for 5% of someone else's
visits then you don't simply add these incidents together which is what
you seem to be doing.

Unless someone else has been sampling the machine's downtime it's not
possible to even guess whether your 5% is on the high or the low side.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

Heh. Well yes, it seems like that, but not really.

Well that's just it. Other people were there when I wasn't and the
cumulative downtime was much more than the downtime I directly
experienced. Which was my point, iyswim.

How many bank tellers can dance on the display of an ATM?

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So in your experience, the machine is more reliable than others have
found it.

And yet you're complaining. My you're demanding.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Simian

At last.

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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

Any one individual in the town would probably have found it at least as
unreliable as I did, so if that individual was in the habit of using it
every day (which I didn't) they would have found it quite inconvenient.
See other post explaining the history of this machine.

I don't think it's too much to expect reliable service from these
machines, after all, the technology's been around for years. It becomes
really noticeable when there's only one machine and it's down a lot of
the time.

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happens quite often - usually with machines on Charing Cross Road in the
middle of London. I often have to walk to several other machines to find
one that works - this being on a weekday lunchtime; not a time when you
might expect machines to be knackered or out of cash.

 

And this is where it all falls apart.

If you're finding it's 5% unreliable and other individuals are not
finding it much more than 5% unreliable then the *average* availability
is going to be *greater* than 90% and not less.

If your claim is that it's only available for 90% of the time then
you're getting a good deal finding it available for 95% of the time.

 

Paul Corfield wrote

Tescos down in Pitsea has a couple, there is usually not a queue at one
of them.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

I wish.

It probably (at a rough guess, going by my own encounters with it and
the experience of others) spends about 30 days per year locally busted
/out of cash/ network busted. In a one-horse town it's really noticeable
when the only cash machine isn't working and people gripe, especially
when they have to travel 15 miles to the next one. Fortunately the
advent of the second machine seems to have taken some of the strain off
the first and it's not so unreliable now.

Anyway, this is all anecdotal so there's not much point being picky
about the method used to arrive at my seat of the pants figures.

So there.

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Why ? Explain in greater detail the failure to download it and I may be
able to help.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

Buggered if I remember, it was ages ago. The download manager installed,
then I found I couldn't get to the actual download page for some reason.

I've had another go and it's working now.

About the various parts... on the Solaris 9 4/04 download page, I'm
taking the first 5 required files; do I need file 6 (the first one in
the optional category?).

This one... sol-9-u6-lang-x86.zip ?

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Because it was a joke. A handy platform to learn Solaris on without
splashing out for overpriced Sparc hardware, but not exactly what
I'd call a production quality OS.

Cheaply? You've had long enough. 7 was an abomination of an OS, 8 only
marginally better. 9 seems OK (but everybody knows not to trust a
release of Solaris ending in an odd number)

If it needs to be up 24/7, use n+1 machines and cluster them. Anything
else is folly unless you have at least a minicomputer.

 

Should not be needed , unless you want some obscure language ?

I thought you would have gone for Solars Express (10)

To appease the masses (ok,clique) lets take this offline, either my
personal account or work one (you get one guess and working out my work
account )

 

Bzzzzt, you show your ignorance.
Solaris x86 has *alwasy* shared the code base of Solaris sparc , there is
less than 5% differences mainly due to MSB/LSB.

It has always had the "prosduction quality" OSness
Just not the apps and backing. But a lot more people where using than had
been realised.

God, you really do talk bollocks.
2.7 was best regarded as an interim, it was never going "en-mass" due to
Y2K.2.8 was (and is an excelent platform,2.9 built upon it and included a
lot of performance improvements + utils, 2.10 is turning heads.

Note I use the 2. notation to sure it is not a total OS release.

Again , you show your ignorance. Cluster is not 24/7. An outage is
required to switch services. Too many people make this miss-aprehension and
then wonder why their 24/7 solution fails audit.

99.999% uptime is still a dream for many. We did have FT box, the FT1800
which could be cut in half and not even wimper, but there is less call for
24/7 when people realise what it really costs, and the fact they don't
really need it.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

emailed.

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