Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Sir.Tony [QUOTE] What all the dogging rubbish? You always talk about it. If you want to do it, just do it and shut the hell up about it.[/QUOTE] Hmm... Can't see the attraction myself. But hey! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Can you recommend any venues? Of course, I'm a little shy. I'd probably have to get *well* pissed before I drove there.