(Long) Top tips for a lap of Spain

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Macie, May 15, 2006.

  1. Macie

    Macie Guest

    1. Spain is bigger than you think. At least it is if your only
    pre trip route planning consists of little more than noting a few
    recommended road numbers and a declaration that "we'll go
    anti-clockwise".

    2. Do not pop to the Post Office on the day of departure
    expecting to fill in a E111 form and get it stamped like the last time
    you went abroad, because they don’t do it like that anymore. You can
    apply online to speed the process up, but your card still won’t arrive
    within six hours. Also be aware that continental breakdown cover is a
    pain to get if your bike is over 10 years old, and that a lot of
    standard travel insurance policies count motorcycling as a hazardous
    activity and don’t cover you. Practice shrugging.

    3. Do not think that because most of the wear limit indicators
    are still visible on your back tyre at the start of the trip it will
    be fine. 3000 miles, two overweight passengers and luggage will soon
    make the bits of rubber go away.

    4. Do not assume that you will easily grab a room for the night
    in Northern Spain on a Sunday. In particular, the Sunday before Labour
    Day holiday, because you won't. Doing a detour to on or two large-ish
    towns won't help and neither will trying every little place towards
    Portugal.

    5. Northern Spain does not constantly smell of mint. Do not waste
    time repeatedly pondering this phenomenon, because next morning you
    will realise that in your bleary-eyed state induced by 4 hours sleep
    and the ferry docking at the ridiculous time of 7am, you had a shave
    using toothpaste, rather than shaving gel.

    6. Do not be alarmed when the only other people you see in a 24
    hour cafe near the border with Portugal are five or six uniformed
    members of the Guardia Civil necking beer - it will help take their
    attention away from some foreigners getting a couple of hours kip on a
    pallet round the back.

    7. A Spanish phrase book is no use in Portugal. Mid-Portugal
    will also seem to be closed at this point in time, but the empty roads
    give you ample time to look at lots and lots of stumpy little trees.
    Rejoice at the hotel having wifi, and fire up your ipaq, before
    finding out that your ipaq browser cant handle web pages that actually
    do anything - like hotel booking pages for instance.

    8. Seville is a shit hole. When deciding to get out the place
    and head to Jerez / Cadiz do not assume that just because you pay to
    use the motorway that this means that you can go as fast as you like
    without interference from the Police, because it doesn't. Do present
    your papers quickly to the nice policeman, as this at least takes his
    attention away from your back tyre.

    9. Algeciras is a shit hole - at least in the evening. Ferries to
    Africa are far more frequent, as well as cheaper from here than from
    Gibraltar, but at Gibraltar port you won't get a variety of colourful
    characters wanting to look after your bike or escort you to a ticket
    office down an alley.

    10. Gibraltar has a "nature park" thing at the top of the rock,
    but be aware that after you pay extra to take your vehicle up you are
    still prohibited from driving up the top two or three roads to the top
    station. Gibraltar also has cheap petrol @ 57p a litre (not too much
    consequence on a bike) and cheap fags @ £10 for 200 Bensons (a
    significant consequence if you have 2 cargo nets handy).

    11. Just because Gibraltar is UK affiliated and you have a UK
    passport and the UK is in the EU, this does not mean that the UK
    "acceptable personal allowance" of a few thousand ciggies will apply
    when you re-enter Spain, because it doesn't - you are limited to 200
    per person. It would help if you knew this *before* cargo netting a
    quantity of freshly purchased tobacco products onto any available
    space on your bike. Furthermore, you would probably be less
    conspicuous going back into Spain if you noticed that all the bikes
    and scooters were nipping through a gap in the barrier and didn't end
    up as the only bike in the four lane queue of cars waiting to cross
    the border.

    12. If your ipaq can't handle hotel booking pages, don't keep
    wasting money on hotel wifi access in Spain (Telefonica) or France
    (Orange) because instead of the little card giving you numbers to put
    into your connection settings like it did in Portugal, you will need
    to put your username and password into an easy to use web page - which
    your ipaq can't handle. Begin to wish you had brought your laptop, or
    a plan.

    13. If your bike has a 500 RPM flat spot under normal conditions,
    do not be alarmed when this grows to a 2000 RPM flat spot when you are
    chugging around in the Sierra Nevada mountains. It's probably
    something to do with the air being thinner and colder at 8000 feet,
    because it goes back to normal when you get down to a more
    sensible altitude.

    14. Do not assume that all twisty scenic roads have a lovely road
    surface, because they don’t. Some are OK, some are bumpy as hell,
    some have been repaired with the back of a shovel rather than a road
    roller, and some are being completely resurfaced and consist of
    nothing but road stone for 15Km.

    15. Barcelona is bigger than you think, and the Sagrada Familiar
    looks less impressive when playing host to a load of scaffolding and
    there are half a dozen cranes towering above it. Similarly the Magic
    Fountain is less photogenic when it's turned off.

    16. The N152 road from Ripoll to Urtx is terrific - scenic, loads
    of twisties and a nice smooth surface. After completely losing the use
    of your back brake three quarters of the way along (probably this
    "brake fade" of which I have heard, or riding like a PFF as some would
    say) you can then go on to ponder if the juddering from the front
    brake is indeed a warped disk or not.

    17. Lourdes is Tacky Central.

    18. When going up the Col du Tormalet do not be put off by the
    "ferme" signs and the barrier across the road 5 Km from the top,
    thinking it's probably only some rocks and the odd bit of snow and
    that the road is really only closed for cars but navigable by bike.
    You get to see a nice JCB, a nicer snow plough and a awesome snow
    blower in action, and eventually do get to the top. But not down the
    other side.

    19. When getting off the boat at Portsmouth learn that although
    you got your passport at the same time as your small child, theirs
    only lasts for five years and expired several months ago. Be relieved
    that this comes to light back on UK soil and muse how much more fun
    this would have been had it been noticed elsewhere, in particular such
    as when on getting on the ferry on day one, or indeed if you had
    decided to catch the boat to Morocco.

    HTH, HAND etc.
     
    Macie, May 15, 2006
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  2. Macie

    antonye Guest

    This is what happened when we went:
    http://www.horrible.demon.co.uk/bareges2000/20.jpg
     
    antonye, May 15, 2006
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  3. Heh. This is a major ski run between December and April, so I'm not
    surprised at all.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 15, 2006
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  4. Macie

    Lozzo Guest

    Bear said...
    It's just because Champ was on a K1 Gixer thou, and everyone knows
    that's God's own choice of sports bike, when he's not trying to start
    his Hardly.
     
    Lozzo, May 15, 2006
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  5. Macie

    Ace Guest

    Oh sure, it was more that I could hear Champ's bike was still pulling
    cleanly, whereas mine was needing a lot more throttle & revs, and was
    popping like a bastard on the overrun too. Only happened when it was
    quite high up, mind.[/QUOTE]

    Simian's already over-fueled 7R, with the flatslides and the trail of
    unburnt fuel you could smell (literally) a mile behind was quite
    amusing to ride over the Col de la Bonnette, apparently. ISTR it was
    fine as long as you kept the motor between 8500 and 9000 rpm, or
    something like that.

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    Ace, May 15, 2006
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  6. Macie

    darsy Guest

    <fx: considers trip to NEC a few years back>

    accept this prize:

    UKRM poster most likely to be left for dead in some unforgiving
    arsehole-of-nowhere or - worse - Newport Pagnell Services.
     
    darsy, May 15, 2006
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  7. Paul Carmichael, May 15, 2006
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  8. Macie

    Ace Guest

    He seemed to quite enjoy it, akcherly. We did stop for a 'rest' just
    before the top, mind. Oh, his head bearings were utterly fucked too,
    although he hadn't noticed until I pointed it out, after wheeling it
    out of my garage. Doesn't like to make things too easy for himself,
    does our Simon.
    There's a blue plaque at the side of the road now...

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    Ace, May 15, 2006
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  9. Macie

    Ace Guest

    Didn't realise you were still running it.

    <fx:consults ebay>

    Looking a bit nicer now, with a properly-fitting fairing. And without
    your, err, 'interesting' last-minute paint job. But it definitely had
    character. Still not got a matching seat unit, I notice.

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    Ace, May 15, 2006
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  10. Macie

    Ace Guest

    Aye, that about sums it up. But some of the roads we'd done earlier in
    the day were, quite literally, 'gorgeous'.

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    Ace, May 15, 2006
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  11. Ah, but I don't drink like that anymore, so it's unlikely to happen.

    At least, unlikely to happen *like that*[/QUOTE]

    thank heavens for small mercies
     
    Paul Corfield, May 15, 2006
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  12. Macie

    Ace Guest

    But it's _blue_. a) the wrong colour and b) not the same as the
    mudguards, tank and top fairing. Were they really made that way?

    <googles>

    Oh. I see they were. Wierd.

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    Ace, May 15, 2006
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  13. Macie

    ogden Guest

    That reminds me. Ruddles o'clock.
     
    ogden, May 15, 2006
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  14. Macie

    Ace Guest

    Been Crémant heure for a while now...

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    Ace, May 15, 2006
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  15. Macie

    ogden Guest

    It was Kronenbourg o'clock for me on the 6.36 from Paddington (sure-fire
    way to keep the seat next to you empty: neck lager on the commuter
    express while reading a bike mag and Sam Adams o'clock as soon as I got
    home.

    It's the only way to get through the hell that is Clearing Up The Spare
    Room.
     
    ogden, May 15, 2006
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  16. Macie

    Lozzo Guest

    Bear said...
    I knew a Sam Adams, short for Samantha it was. She was fucking stunning.
     
    Lozzo, May 15, 2006
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  17. Macie

    ogden Guest

    Most of it. A job that big takes days.
     
    ogden, May 15, 2006
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  18. Macie

    ogden Guest

    They're more purple than blue, but for some reason they come out the
    wrong colour in photos, eg.
    http://www.pre.org/verdun05/slides/IMGP0229.JPG
     
    ogden, May 15, 2006
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  19. Likewise my old Fireblade - the other 3 I was with were all on FI bikes
    and were wondering why I was having trouble keeping up - and also why I
    was keepeing my revs above 5000 RPM all the time (the engine would die
    if I let the revs drop lower!)

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, May 16, 2006
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  20. That would knock out 1 of many ways I suppose..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, May 16, 2006
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