lohmann diesel moped

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Dave Gee, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. Dave Gee

    Dave Gee Guest

    Anyone familiar with these beasties? Odd objects, possibly German and
    designed around 1949 by a H. Tegen. Fastened to bicycles below the
    crank and provided minimal power, a "helper" system. Also seems to
    have been a very long stroke twin version that attached to the crank -
    two stroke diesel also, abou the same vintage and possibly Heinkel
    mfg.

    Cheers!
    Dave G.
     
    Dave Gee, Jun 2, 2007
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  2. Dave Gee

    Pip Luscher Guest

    <googles>

    Ah, an overgrown model aeroplane engine.

    So I guess that it had a carb, not a bloody tiny injector.

    Interesting, though.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 2, 2007
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  3. Dave Gee

    Badger Guest

    A more modern ( but only just ) version of the engine.

    http://www.practicafoundation.nl/products/under-development/micro-diesel.html
     
    Badger, Jun 2, 2007
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  4. Dave Gee

    Naqerj Guest

    Yes, I've got one.
     
    Naqerj, Jun 2, 2007
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  5. Dave Gee

    Naqerj Guest

    That's right... if you can call it a carb. There's no float chamber;
    the fuel line plumbs straight into the jet. So I suppose you could call
    it an injector in a Wal Phillips stylee, but no, it's not a proper
    Diesel injector.
     
    Naqerj, Jun 2, 2007
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  6. Dave Gee

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Sounds *exactly* like a model aero engine.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 2, 2007
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  7. now why does that not surprise me?

    are there any SOMopeds you *haven't* got?

    BTW, came across something about the Nuvinci CVT pushbike hub. I'm thinking
    of getting one and hopefully selling 'em. recall reading about the project
    a year or so ago - it's not a new concept, it's the execution that's
    different, instead of friction drive it has special fluid that goes solid
    under pressure (similar to the stuff in viscous diffs, I imagine) which
    provides the grip, so presumably the problems of components wearing and thus
    slipping are reduced, maybe to zero.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jun 2, 2007
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  8. Dave Gee

    Naqerj Guest

    Oh yes, lots...
    Coo, can you run it on custard then?
     
    Naqerj, Jun 3, 2007
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  9. hehe. google for Nuvinci, you'll find various info about it.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jun 3, 2007
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  10. Dave Gee

    Dave Gee Guest

    Heh! Do you run it? and if so, on what? 18cc seems iffy, but from
    what I have found they seem to work/help, though not "true" diesels
    and performance seems to be pretty tied to fuel and ambient temps too.
    Pretty interesting little motors in their way!
    The small "updated" pump motor on the practica site sounds nuts,
    must 1 Kg of motor and 14 of transmission.

    Cheers & thanks for the replies!
    Dave G.
     
    Dave Gee, Jun 4, 2007
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  11. Dave Gee

    Naqerj Guest

    Paraffin and two-stroke oil. Some people use weird concoctions but
    paraffin works for me.
    They seem to have a speed they're happy running at (somewhere around
    14mph but dependent on what fuel your using) and the trick is to keep it
    at that speed. At the merest hint of a hill, start pedalling lightly to
    keep it at its favourite speed. I've fitted mine with a
    "Lohmann-freilaufschaltung", which means I can reduce the roller
    pressure in dry conditions and waste less of its meagre power on
    squashing the tyre.

    There's a photo of mine on
    http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/gallery/plo1.html
    It's the one at the top.
     
    Naqerj, Jun 4, 2007
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  12. Dave Gee

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Pip Luscher, Jun 4, 2007
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  13. Christ on a bike - the writer's grasp on post-war Britain (not England)
    is tenuous, and his understanding of diesel combustion is severely
    flawed.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 5, 2007
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  14. Dave Gee

    Dave Gee Guest

    I had a problem with the link, but that is OK! Otherwise I would
    never have searched the moped site and found the "Astounding" Lohmann
    Marine Attachment!
    Makes me wonder what else is out there, a Lohmann "helper prop" for
    hang gliders? Did Lohmann have an Italian division producing an Auto
    called a Cyclops? </snark>
    Found the bike/lohmann too I think (1951 downtube type?).
    Thanks for the replies. The upshot of these questions is that I have
    found a Lohmann in a box (apart, so some things are sure to be broken/
    missing).
    I have decided to go ahead and buy it, though I know better, it's
    cheap and at least won't take up much room!

    Cheers!
    Dave G.
     
    Dave Gee, Jun 5, 2007
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Pip Luscher, Jun 5, 2007
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  16. Austin Shackles, Jun 6, 2007
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