Locations?

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Holly, May 19, 2004.

  1. Holly

    Holly Guest

    I'm looking for a cool, urban/industrial place in San Francisco, like a
    visually arresting abandoned building or something for a project I'm doing.
    Can people run some suggestions by me? If there's a motorcycle theme I can
    incorporate, even better, but not essential.
     
    Holly, May 19, 2004
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  2. Oakland.

    HTH,

    cds
     
    C. Deforrest Smith, May 20, 2004
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  3. Holly

    Alan Moore Guest

    Better still, Emeryville. Alternatively, follow the nearest set of
    railroad tracks until you find something suitably picturesque.

    Al Moore
     
    Alan Moore, May 22, 2004
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  4. Holly

    Holly Guest

    I thought of Oakland, but didn't think of Emeryville, but I don't have a
    lot of time to scout or hunt for "spooky" places, so I was hoping for a
    quick, "there's this cool old tunnel on (X) street," kind of answer. I'm
    going to do this probably either late-ish Saturday night or on Sunday
    afternoon, and have a few not-so-"spooky" but just as "dangerous" (in some
    people's minds, like a "biker bar") places in mind that will probably work
    fine for what I want to do.
     
    Holly, May 22, 2004
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  5. Holly

    bob prohaska Guest

    Point Molate U. S. Naval Fuel Depot. It marks the western limit of Richmond,
    CA.

    Take I580 W, exit Western Dr. (last offramp before the Richmond-San Rafael
    bridge).

    It's a rather pretty ride, and the abandoned Navy facilities, if they
    haven't been demolished/cleaned up, are quite startling. One brick
    building looks like an 18th century fortress, complete with parapets
    with what appear to be marksman's slits.

    A couple miles past the depot the road deteriorated spectacularly,
    ending in the Point Molate Marina, a little enclave with a small
    restaurant that served good omelettes a few years ago.

    Haven't been back since, I should go again. There was some effort
    in progress to redevelop the place, interesting to see what's done.

    If you choose to look I suggest a daylight visit (or a full moon!).


    bob prohaska
     
    bob prohaska, May 22, 2004
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  6. Holly

    Charlie Guest

    Go out to Alameda.. the Naval Air Station.. near where they have the
    aircraft carrier musuem.

    Lots of ships, docks.. cranes... should be perfect for what you're after.
     
    Charlie, May 22, 2004
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  7. Holly

    Holly Guest

    Hey, this sounds like a possibility. Thanks!
     
    Holly, May 22, 2004
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  8. Holly

    Holly Guest

    Hm. I was actually even out in that area a few weeks ago, but I don't think
    we went by that particular place. Is it anywhere near Point Richmond? It
    sounds cool, and like it might be just what I'm looking for. I have to video
    this and would definitely do this one in the day (a "biker bar" I'd rather
    do at night).
     
    Holly, May 22, 2004
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  9. Holly

    bob prohaska Guest

    You can't "go by" it. The road is a _very_ dead end :cool:

    It's north of Point Richmond and west, smack against San Pablo Bay.
    Last WB exit before the bridge tool plaza, by about 300 feet.

    I'm not sure about the access situation; last I looked, couple years
    ago, there was a considerable hazardous waste cleanup (mostly oil,
    solvents and of course asbestos) in progress. "Look but don't touch".
    That will doubtless be followed by redevelopment.
    Scouting would be best in daylight, but a full moon would make a more
    ominous impression. The brick "fort" really impressed me, even in daylight.
    There was a little enclave of officer's quarters that astonished in a
    different way.

    bob
     
    bob prohaska, May 22, 2004
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  10. Holly

    Holly Guest

    Undoubtedly, and the housing tracts will have names like "Golden Fields"
    or "Bay Vista" instead of "Petrochem Desert". ; )
    Cool. I gotta find this place.
     
    Holly, May 22, 2004
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  11. And you've got places like the Richmond Marina Bay where they should
    be named "LiquifactionVille"
     
    Nicholas C. Weaver, May 22, 2004
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  12. Holly

    Holly Guest

    Yeah, it must be newcomers to California who buy houses in places like
    that. Yikes.
     
    Holly, May 22, 2004
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  13. Holly

    bob prohaska Guest

    http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arch_story/072503.htm

    Turns out to have a wholly different history than I imagined....

    The "castle" was a winery built in 1907, it closed
    during Prohibition. The land was taken over by the Navy during the
    Second World War as a fueling station (an oil refinery is right next
    door). The buildings I thought were officer's quarters were part of
    the winery's housing complex. The "fort" fooled me completely, I
    thought it was real :cool:. The marina at road's end is Point San Pablo.

    I really ought to take a look at what's happened there. It had
    considerable charm.

    bob prohaska
     
    bob prohaska, May 23, 2004
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  14. Nope, I know a couple of nativs who've bought a house here in marina
    bay. I don't understand why anyone would buy around here, but
    apparently they do.

    It's great for renting: heck, redtag the building after the big one
    (liquifaction tends to make buildings uninhabitable, not directly
    collapsing them), its not MY money, and it is a fair bit cheaper than
    other places in the area.

    Having truely craptactular public schools is also great for DINKs like
    me, drops the cost of rent considerably. :)
     
    Nicholas C. Weaver, May 23, 2004
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  15. Holly

    Holly Guest

    http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arch_story/072503.htm
    "Despite its charms, few people find the winding road to Point Molate to
    see Winehaven, its piers, the charred remains of a whaling station, and East
    Brother Light Station, an 1870s National-Register-listed lighthouse that is
    now a B&B. Beneath Point Molate are remains of four Chinese shrimp camps
    from the 1870s and prehistoric Indian middens."

    Now I know where my next foray will take me. This place sounds really
    interesting.
     
    Holly, May 24, 2004
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  16. Holly

    Holly Guest

    Nice view, plan to sell in a few years, playing the odds... I guess I can
    see why.
    I've lived in neighborhoods like that, except it was the crack houses on
    either end of the street that brought the rent down...
     
    Holly, May 24, 2004
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  17. Holly

    bob prohaska Guest

    I took a look early Sunday afternoon. It's a little more sad.
    The "Castle" is now fenced off much tighter than before, with
    barbed-wire-topped chainlink that looks new. There're gates, and
    maybe the proper blandishments would open them, but none were
    required last visit. The security guard gave me a cordial wave,
    perhaps I should have stopped....

    The little houses look a bit more forlorn, with plywood substituting
    for glass in a few. The glass was intact on the last visit. I'd rent
    one in a minute, nonetheless. [provided a garage could be found!]

    Beyond the Depot the road is almost purposefully wretched, asphalt
    patched with canteloupe-sized cowpies of paving material. It makes
    Pinehurst seem easy. The marina is still there, with a wonderful
    collection of idle apparatus, mostly of a heavy construction nature.
    The parking area is composed of fine dust, which coats everything.

    Didn't check for the cafe...my bad!

    bob prohaska
     
    bob prohaska, May 24, 2004
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  18. Holly

    Holly Guest

    Drat. Well, maybe if I put on some makeup and bat my eyelashes he'll let
    me through just like the last cop who pulled me over let me off of a
    ticket...
    Glass? Who needs glass?! Tape a little waxed paper over the windows and
    you're good to go. ;)
    I'm just going to park the bike and sneak in wherever I can find a good
    place. After all that roughing it, I'm going to need a good cafe! I'll let
    you know if it's still there.
     
    Holly, May 24, 2004
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  19. Holly

    bob prohaska Guest

    That might work. Most likely access is controlled by contractors doing
    the HAZMAT cleanup. Week days are apt to be better.
    Just be sure to park on the windward side of the lot!

    bob prohaska
     
    bob prohaska, May 25, 2004
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