Lemmiwinks; live and livid in Canberra hospital

I'm aware of the properties of titanium. My point was more, "If you
can't detect a knife made from titanium being taken on an aircraft,
the why the **** do we have to eat off soft plastic cutlery on
flights?" Terrorists have no idea about titanium? Yeah right.

Ta? Boags thanks.

Oh **** yeah. Please.

 

Poor Mandy Vansize got herself into deep shit talking about
counter-terrorist measures in aviation security to a group of Rotarians in
Adelaide a couple of years ago, when she made the very valid point that an
HB pencil, poked into an eyeball, could be a potent weapon. Bugger cutlery!

PS, Remember the froot-loop with the sharpened sticks who caused a ruckus on
a domestic flight? Thing is, there's a shitload of stuff that can be used as
a weapon - the AvSec regulators have to try and find some sort of balance
between sensibility and total fucking paranoia (which would have only
luggageless naked and x-rayed ppl allowed on planes - scary thought!)

betty

 

scary for some :-D
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Cheers
The Happy Drunk
K100RT

Thursday, and I'm not piking yet

 

I hate sensationalism and conspiracy theories. The world gumbiments
seem to be preying on peoples' phobias to bring in some insane laws.

Get over it peoples. The world is a dangerous place. The chance of me
getting on a plane that is going to crash/attack is way less than me
dying in a bus crash/attack here in Hobart. I don't see metal
detectors as I get on that bus. In fact, I don't even see seat belts.
To be quite honest that makes me more uncomfortable than flying on a
plane.

We need a big fucking reality check soon. I don't want to be wrapped
in cotton wool. I'll take my chances.

And as I've said before, how about we wrap G.W.Bush in cotton wool? I
think that would be much better. But only if someone soaked it in
petrol and threw him a cigarette.

</rant>

 

And that was Vanstone's point! I know ppl poke fun at her for being fat and
loud etc, but I have always respected her for saying wtf she thinks, even if
it doesn't toe the party line!

Don't think that the gumbiment isn't thinking about that very situation -
surface transport is seen as a major vulnerability, but the responsibility
for regulating surface transport lies with state/territory governments, not
the Commonwealth...

betty

 

They don't keep you too long if you have the right ID and reason

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Cheers
The Happy Drunk
K100RT

Thursday, and I'm not piking yet

 

And then there'd only be people with hand-to-hand combat training to
worry about...

 

They live in caves. don't you watch the news.

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

On that point, check out the law coming in real soon now in South
Aus., benn passed by the lower house and due in the upper house. Aimed
at bikie gangs who allegedly shoot up innocent diners in fashionable
Adelaide streets and peddle drugs etc.. They will be able to declare
an organisation as "proscribed" then a whole bunch of draconian stuff
comes into force. Lots of unintended consequences in there I suspect.
It only takes a small shift then to target any other group annoying
the gubimint and they are stuffed.

SteveB

 

Oh... I hardly think they are 'unintended'...


G-S

 

I'm going to go on a course next week - "Defending yourself against
people armed with fresh fruit"......

N/

 

<cheers from the sidelines while metaphorically sipping a martini>

Well said old chap.

JL

 

Or that Avon Lady -- "Can I take this balm on board?"

 

Say hi to them both from me please when you next drop by.

JL

 

<luggageless naked and x-rayed ppl allowed on planes >

Do you think you'd still get blankets on overnight flights?

 

Yeah - Radio National had quite a long discussion on this the other
day. I can see where they are trying to head, but the connections they
try to make are insane. Personally I'd like to see those groups depart
as well, but only because of the monority 1%ers. I've done gigs at
Rebels and Devils Henchman clubhouses and the majority of them are
fine. The fucktards in amongst them are a real problem though.

The last gig I did with the Rebels about 3 years ago, I had to be at
work at lunchtime on Sunday so around 5am I left my girlfriend at the
time with a couple of other friends and got a taxi home. This is after
a really good evening where the manager of the clubroom was a perfect
gent and looked after our every need. Nothing was a problem. They all
enjoyed the music, discipline was better than you'd find in a
waterfront pub full of pissed footy jocks. But it went to shit. It
appears after big nasty me left, someone spiked all 3 of them rather
badly, including the guy. They were all in their early/mid 20s so I
guess I looked like the minder. The manager was able to spot it and
get them home, but Manuella was so fucked she wasn't coherent for two
days. Dunno what was in the spike and they didn't go to the doctor
(mainly because we had imbibed in some light illegals earlier in the
night) but I told her to make sure that if that happens again, get yer
arse to hospital and wear the penalties afterwards. Death is a much
bigger penalty.

Anyway, the Rebels did look after them very well, but obviously
someone was targetting Manuella after I left as the other two were
obviously a couple. It only takes one tosser to **** it up. But the
tossers gravitate to those environments and that is the last time I'll
go to one of those joints.

I can imagine the Gypsy Jokers and the like are going to have
individuals a whole level up from there. So what is the answer? How
many law firms have criminals in them? Do we ban law firms?

 

Not here in Tasmania. We don't have that new-fangled television stuff
in ou mud huts.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 08 May 2008 01:50:09 GMT

What's the percentage of people convicted of criminal acts in the RSL?

Zebee

 

Is that sensationalism?

Conspiracy theory?

You're as bad the mob you're trying to slam, when it comes to hyping
up the paranoia.

Middle path: It is utterly realistic that some groups are
deliberately a law unto themselves and treat the public with utter
contempt. It is also entirely reasonable to proscribe such groups
until they change their attitude.

As long as there is a sound appeal and review process attached to such
laws, I see no problem.

By their own credo, 1%ers have no place in our society and should be
dealt with as ruthlessly as is necessary if they want to act up.

They're pricks, they want to be pricks, and they should be treated by
the law as pricks. End of...


If it swims like a fish, it's fair game for the gellignite, I say...

I've had it with these stand-over dickheads intimdating and monstering
anyone THEY don't like.

They can pretend they're outside our laws, and they can learn that
there are consquences for such pretences...

You got a problem with any of that Steve?

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 08 May 2008 16:03:14 +1000

"The communist party is outlawed, the communist party is anything the
government says is the communist party".

Big if. Who appeals? Who judges? And on what grounds?

"If more than 5 members have criminal convictions" will shut down the
RSL for example. And most football clubs. Even if you change it to
"convictions for assault".

THe usual method is to enforce the laws selectively which sucks even
more.

Boils down to this - do you trust the politicians to be fair and even
handed and provide a sound appeal and review process? Do you wish to
buy a large metal structure in a delightful location?

Zebee