left- or right-hand thread?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by homeless penguin, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. I'm trying to remove the front sprocket from a CBR600, but don't know
    which way it is threaded and the manual doesn't give any indications.
    I'd rather not **** it up by trying to undo it in the wrong direction,
    so if anyone could please enlighten me that would be much appreciated!
    :)


    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 26, 2005
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  2. homeless penguin

    alx Guest

    think about it...which way does the sprocket turn to make the big wheel go
    round forward?

    so sprocket turns anticlockwise..

    now which way to ensure the nut doesnt come undone?

    have fun! a dirty job
     
    alx, Aug 26, 2005
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  3. homeless penguin

    alx Guest

    so to loosen the locknut...turn it anticlockwise...standard thread ....lefty
    loosey rightey tightey.

    design principal?

    ie. assuming the locknut is held still , the operational action of the
    sprocket rotation (anticlockwise) should tend to ensure the nut remains
    tightened rather than loosening.
     
    alx, Aug 26, 2005
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  4. well yes, that is the logical way to do it...but I'd rather ask a
    silly question and get it right than make an assumption and break
    something because I got it wrong! :)

    So that would be left-hand thread then? :)



    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 26, 2005
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  5. *looks innocent*

    who me? :p



    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 26, 2005
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  6. homeless penguin

    SP3 Guest

    You may be surprised if you automatically think it is a LHT.
    Does the nut have any "valleys" cut into the points of the hexagon to
    indicate it may be a LHT?
    If rotation direction was the only criterion of LHT v RHT then all motor
    cars would have LHT/RHT on the front wheel axles - doesn't happen.
    Cheers,
     
    SP3, Aug 26, 2005
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  7. Nope, nothing special about it. I figured it was RHT to start with,
    but it was on so goddam tight and when I mentioned it to a friend they
    asked if maybe it was LHT instead - and I didn't know. So I thought
    rather than maybe end up stuffing something up, it would be prudent to
    make sure before proceding any further. It's not something I've ever
    really had to worry about before, hence the uncertainty. But alx's
    post was very helpful :)

    So my next question is: how the hell do you undo something that just
    does NOT want to come loose?


    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 26, 2005
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  8. homeless penguin

    RexT Guest

    You put the socket onto an Impact wrench, lock the back wheel (friend on
    brake will do it) and smack the wrench with a club hammer.
    Well, that's the way we did it when I was a mechanic....
    But now they have air driven stuff....
    RexT
    R80 (dirty white...)
     
    RexT, Aug 26, 2005
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  9. homeless penguin

    SP3 Guest

    Without LHT indicators on the nut, I would just bend the lock washer out
    of the way and use a rattle gun and assume a RHT. If this doesn't work,
    reverse the rattle gun. You could always check the service manual, or
    see if any CBR600 internet sites have a tech section.
    Cheers,
     
    SP3, Aug 26, 2005
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  10. I've tried belting the damn thing into next week (with brake engaged)
    and it just wont budge. $60 for a rattle gun is sounding better by the
    moment...


    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 26, 2005
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  11. homeless penguin

    G-S Guest

    I tried a cheap rattle gun and couldn't shift the last one I did... I
    had to go to work and use the 3/4 drive compact one... some of them are
    bloody tight!


    G-S
     
    G-S, Aug 27, 2005
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  12. homeless penguin

    J5 Guest

    head to the local mechanic and get them to undo it then do it back up again
    and head home and attack it again

    prob wont charge you if they are a nice bloke
     
    J5, Aug 27, 2005
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  13. See my thread up above about engines blowing up... :)

    Went and bought a rattle gun, and solved that problem very
    easily...now I just need to work out where the **** I'm going to find
    a 12mm hex key to undo the one remaining bolt that's holding the
    engine in...stupid fucking engineers always have to make it bloody
    difficult, don't they? No one sells bloody 12mm bloody hex keys, only
    bloody 10mm bloody effin bloody hex keys...


    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 27, 2005
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  14. Hex? You've been jinxed.

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    Peter Cremasco, Aug 27, 2005
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  15. homeless penguin

    J5 Guest


    well there is another option

    get a bolt with a 12 mm head and 2 x nuts

    put the nuts on the bolt and tighten the nuts together

    insert the bolt head and remove allen bolt

    cheaper than hex key
     
    J5, Aug 27, 2005
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  16. Thanks, but I've already tried that and it didn't work. The engine
    bolt is so goddam tight that no matter how tight I did the nuts,
    *they* were what turned, not the engine bolt - in fact, the "hex key
    bolt" ended up shearing between the nuts. This one is going to need
    the real deal, I'm afraid, even if that is the more expensive option.

    The other part that's shitting me at the moment is that the front
    sprocket is on so tight also that even the rattle gun can't even budge
    it even a tiny bit.

    This is definitely not my week at all.



    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 27, 2005
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  17. homeless penguin

    J5 Guest

    ok try a tool place , there is a few online

    you can buy one or you can buy a set

    12 mm is out there
     
    J5, Aug 27, 2005
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  18. homeless penguin

    G-S Guest

    There is a 12mm hex key in the set at work... but that's a _big_ set and
    it cost a pretty packet. Maybe if all else fails you could get a single
    12mm hex key (I know they sell replacement ones).


    G-S
     
    G-S, Aug 27, 2005
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  19. homeless penguin

    G-S Guest

    As I said in other posts... you _can_ get the 12mm by itself, and for
    the sprocket use a good 3/4 drive rattle gun (with a reducer if needed)
    and run it off a good compressor... it'll shift. If that don't work
    then I can loan you a 1" drive rattle gun that'll shift rusted on truck
    wheel nuts....


    G-S
     
    G-S, Aug 27, 2005
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  20. I'm not going to worry too much about the sprocket for now. I was
    going to be replacing the chain this week anyway, so I just broke the
    clip and pulled it off that way. Not too keen on clip links anyway, so
    good riddance to it! :) Important thing is I can now at least get the
    engine out (well, once I've got that bloody 12mm hex key at least!)
    and find out the extent of the damage and work out what needs doing to
    fix it. If I still have no luck with the sprocket, then when it's all
    back together again I'll just trailer it around to the bike shop for
    them to fit the chain instead and they can worry about how to get the
    sprocket off instead of me! :)

    For now, it's time to service the carbies and generally give the rest
    of the bike a good going over...figured it's a good time to do it,
    since it's all in pieces now anyway!


    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?
     
    homeless penguin, Aug 28, 2005
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