Learner needs advise

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Neal, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. Neal

    Neal Guest

    I'm 23 years old and am looking to get my first motorbike, never ridden one
    before. I don't have a licence and have just sent of for my provisional.



    I am looking at getting an Aprillia RS125 after I've passed the CBT. Then
    getting either an Category A1 or A2 (Restricted for 2 year - I don't mind
    waiting) licence



    Is the Aprillia RS125 a good choice? I want to be able to ride it on a CBT
    and A1 licence. And I believe it can be unrestricted if I get A2 licence.



    What's the different between the licences in terms of what's involved.
    Wondering if getting a category A licence is going to be much harder, since
    I'm over 21.



    What should I be looking to pay for

    Aprillia RS125

    CBT and the difference motorbike license.



    I'm from Irlam in Salford/Manchester can you recommend somewhere I can do my
    CBT and the other licences.



    I've got no biking experience and appreciate any help you can give me.



    Regards



    Neal
     
    Neal, Apr 13, 2004
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  2. Neal

    Christofire Guest

    Neal posted:
    I had an RS125 for when I was serving the 2 years on the A2 licence. It
    was my third bike though, having spent a year on a TS50 to learn road
    sense and implanting the 2nd bike (a 125) into the side of a car.

    I think the RS125 is a great choice, and if you get it there's the
    potential for lots of fun. Take it to Moto-Technique near the CIS
    building in the city centre for servicing and you can't go wrong.

    There are a number of things you might want to think about though.
    It'll be a scrote magnet, so you'll need somewhere secure to keep it.
    Also, insurance won't be terribly friendly - get some quotes before you
    go further.

    First bikes tend to spend a little bit of time on their side. This will
    cost you on the RS125. You might like to consider getting a direct-
    access course, and getting some sort of 500/600 with not much plastic.

    As for licence, I was trained up by Motag around Bolton/Horwich. The
    guy was called Ren and was a top bloke. I think they have regional
    training people, so give them a call and see who your local bod is.

    If you fancy a chat or a pint let us know - I live about 20 mins away.
     
    Christofire, Apr 13, 2004
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  3. Neal

    Liam Guest

    To jump in on this thread - is there anything you can recommend? I did most of
    my training on a GS500 and was thinking I could do worse than picking up one of
    these for a while. I'm a bit lost with the sheer variety in autotrader though!
    I've just done a direct access course with Motag, bloke was called Tom, he's
    been training in Bolton for a few years. I trained in Stockport, took my test in
    Northwich. Unfortunately I failed it (thursday just gone), accumulation of five
    minors for missing lifesavers became a serious fault. Everything else was pretty
    much perfect [1] so the fail was a bit annoying. Still, I guess it's better that
    I get into the habit of good observation before they let me loose. Annoyingly
    though I was told that when you get to advanced it's all mirror work, grrr...

    [1] aside from a couple of minors in the "move away" category - stalls arrgghh
    (nerves of course!)
     
    Liam, Apr 13, 2004
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  4. Neal

    Christofire Guest

    Liam posted:
    I've not ridden (m)any of the smaller middle-weights. I loved my
    SV650S, and will recommend them to anyone that will listen (and a few
    who won't).

    I didn't like the seating position of the Fazer, and the Hornet didn't
    have a good range when I was looking, some years ago.

    As for the older/cheaper ones I don't really know. I think I'd better
    wibbleflipdibbledoo this one and pass it over to someone else.
     
    Christofire, Apr 13, 2004
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  5. Keelworm wrote
    It is still a fucking lifesaver, even if you are in a car. Just that
    this time it maybe somebody else's life you are saving.

    Tell the piss takers to **** off or shut up and pointed ask them if they
    can ever be bothered to look round at other traffic on the road.

    Don't be such a fucking wuss. Be aggressive about it and remind them it
    is a 'Lifesaver' and it all helps to keep reinsurance costs down.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 13, 2004
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  6. Neal

    jsp Guest

    A google search on this group will reveal lots of recommendations.
    CB500s seem to get reasonably good press, but IIWY I would consider
    something with a little more poke: Bandit 600, SV 650, Hornet 600,
    Fazer 600. I've had one each of the first two and would thoroughly
    recommend both.

    It all depends on what you want out of it, and how much you want to pay
    for insurance.
    Bad luck. I disagree with "all mirror work". Whilst you might live
    more in your mirrors, the shoulder check before overtakes and before
    right turns is still imporant IMHO.

    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Apr 13, 2004
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  7. Liam said:
    Whoever told you that is a ****.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Apr 13, 2004
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  8. He was talking shite.
     
    William Grainger, Apr 13, 2004
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  9. Neal

    Molly Guest

    provisional.

    Good man.
    Do your DAS. Don't even think about a restricted license.
    licence.

    The RS125 is a great bike and can be ridden on a learner plate
    restricted and on an A1 license unrestricted. I had one. But if you're
    implying to do your CBT on the RS, don't. In my experience people tend
    to struggle when they use race reps for the CBT.
    Do DAS
    Do DAS

    See: http://www.ads-training.co.uk for license categories.


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    "Nemo repente fuit turpissimus"
     
    Molly, Apr 13, 2004
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  10. Neal

    fish Guest

    I would try Tom Granger warrington based, on the main drag from winwick
    there is a big college/poly oposit a BP garage near the KFC.

    I would recomend them to everone.

    Ken
    B12
     
    fish, Apr 13, 2004
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  11. Neal

    fish Guest

    though!

    I loved My Bandit 600 even though it was restricted (1) I am sure you can
    pick them up dirt cheap if you look hard enough. I got a brand spanker for
    £3500 years ago so second hand should still be cheap.

    (1) wrote the bastart off the day before it was due to be derestricted.

    Ken
    B12
     
    fish, Apr 13, 2004
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  12. I even do them when walking down the street!
     
    David Thompson, Apr 13, 2004
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  13. Neal

    Liam Guest

    I absolutely agree; I would prefer to fail being unsafe rather than risk not
    seeing someone cut me up the time I didn't look.
     
    Liam, Apr 13, 2004
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  14. Neal

    jsp Guest

    That collar bone of yours making breathing too difficult then? :)

    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Apr 14, 2004
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  15. Neal

    James Wood Guest

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    James Wood, Apr 14, 2004
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  16. Neal

    Verdigris Guest

    Something along the lines of "What's behind doesn't matter"?
     
    Verdigris, Apr 14, 2004
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  17. Neal

    wessie Guest

    Champ wrote in
    Although the transition phase where something attempts to get in front of
    you could be problematic, no? How's the shoulder?
     
    wessie, Apr 14, 2004
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  18. Neal

    ogden Guest

    Oh, the irony!
     
    ogden, Apr 14, 2004
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  19. Neal

    Christofire Guest

    I find myself doing them when I'm driving, either the car or a shopping
    trolley.
     
    Christofire, Apr 14, 2004
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